CLOSED, PRE-ORDER, DEK1, DEK2, DEK3

Nathan the Machinist

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THIS PRE-ORDER IS NOW CLOSED, THANK YOU.



The DEK series of knives are a collaboration of Lorien Arnold and Nathan Carothers to make a small everyday carry knife capable of normal cutting chores but also designed to work as a weapon for self defense. The best knife for self defense is the one you have on you (the inspiration for this series was an EDC1 carried as a tool but used for self defense a few years ago). It makes sense for your EDC to be designed to accommodate this use. This is accomplished with a hand grip made to accommodate a saber and a reverse grip and a blade well shaped for the task. This handle locks in, you know where the edge and point are without looking and your hand is safe from slipping. There is additional jimping around the end and there is a pad sized and shaped for your thumb in a reverse grip. People rave about this handle, hold one and you'll understand.




This is our most complex pre-order to-date. Some knives will start to ship within about 6 months but I'm going to give myself 18 months to ship all of these because there's so many variations. If you're not comfortable possibly waiting almost two years please do not participate in this pre-order. I'm only promising to complete all orders within 18 months. We will be selling some of these patterns on Friday sales at the same time we're shipping pre-orders so you will see knives being sold while you're waiting on yours. If this causes you to feel sad you should save yourself some hurt feelings and pass on this order.

Once you place your order and it is confirmed and finalized, there are no changes or refunds. I'm sorry, but it has to be this way in order for this process to make sense for us here. The only exceptions are if I'm late (you can get a refund) if I'm unable to complete your order (if Magnacut isn't available or if there is a problem with it) or if you move. If you move, you can (and should) update your shipping address. All other requests for changes will only result a big sticky booger being placed in your box when we ship your knife. Our company has been around a while, I'm not going anywhere, you will get your order. That said, pre-orders (in general) are a terrible idea that I don't recommend. I offer them because people request them. I recommend you just wait on a regular sale.

We're offering three patterns in two steels.

The DEK1 is an existing pattern that we're offering here again.

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It's beautiful, it's very highly functional and, like the Shiv and the HDFK, it's an iconic CPK knife. Between Lorien and me this is some of the best work to leave our shop. If you've never used one, you're missing out. We're re-releasing this because it really is that good. We are so proud of this knife, it is dripping in excellence. You NEED one.


Here are the specs:

Specs:
Delta 3V, 60.5 HRC, .160" thick at ricasso (a little over 5/32") (Magnacut stainless steel optional)
Total length 9.125
Blade length 4.5
Weight 6.2 oz
Edge angle 20 DPS
Grippy 3D machined scales in micarta or G10
Titanium fasteners
Hidden lanyard


These are all "field grade", machined and tumbled with tool and grind marks. However they're given a light hand ground convexed S grind before tumbling.


Basic vanilla configuration, with sheath, does not include shipping:
$310 in canvas micarta, black or natural

^This is a very good value for this knife and is the configuration that I recommend.

Optional add ons available in addition to plain vanilla:
Penetrator tip (the shoulders are ground back at the point leaving a sharp stabby tip) $25
Swedge (milled) $45
Acid wash (will show wear with use) $50
Satin grind after tumble (super clean 220 grit hand ground finish) $125
Acid wash and satin grind the primary $150
Magnacut stainless steel with optimized heat treat rather than Delta 3V, same price
Make my titanium fasteners pretty and blue $15


Scales, substitute for basic micarta:
Black Linen micarta $10
Double Black canvas micarta $10
OD green micarta $10
Burlap micarta $20
Double red (maroon) canvas micarta $20
OD green or Black G10 $10
Terotuf (grey or bright green or OD green) $20
Edge cut antique Micarta $100
Mystery wood (prolly something really crappy like an old dry rotted Ikea bookshelf) $150

Shipping in the USA is $13. Multiples do not accrue additional shipping.


Price includes an excellent kydex sheath. Your choice of Taco with Ulticlip, pancake with semirigid drop loop, pancake with Teklok. The Teklock can be turned 90 degrees for horizontal carry. The Ulticlip works inside the waistband or in a pocket. The semirigid drop loop is pretty close to an old-school belt sheath.






There is also a DEK2, which is a very heavy-duty variation for those of you who want to try (and fail) to break something.

Here are some computer renderings of what it won't look like:

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The DEK2 is only available in Delta 3V. It comes with our rough use warranty. If it ever fails (in any way, for any reason short of intentionally breaking it) I will replace, repair or refund. You cannot break this knife (without big tools). Try to break this knife. I'm taking it down to a somewhat thin edge, so you might pick up some edge damage by cutting though a bolt, car, nail, bridge etc but if you can damage it, I will repair it. If you want a small knife that can handle anything you can possibly dish out, this is it. This knife has a combination of durability, cutting performance and edge retention you cannot find anywhere else.




Here are the specs:

Specs:
Delta 3V, 60.5 HRC, .200" thick at ricasso (a little over 3/16")
Total length 9.125
Blade length 4.5
Weight 7.5 oz
Edge angle 20 DPS
Grippy 3D machined scales in micarta or G10
Titanium fasteners
Hidden lanyard


These are all "field grade", machined and tumbled with tool and grind marks.


Basic vanilla configuration, with sheath, does not include shipping:
$330 in canvas micarta, black or natural

^This is a very good value for this knife and is the configuration that I recommend.

Optional add ons available in addition to plain vanilla:
Penetrator tip (the shoulders are ground back at the point leaving a sharp stabby tip) $25
Swedge (milled) $45
Acid wash (will show wear with use) $50
Satin grind after tumble (super clean 220 grit hand ground finish) $125
Acid wash and satin grind the primary $150
Make my titanium fasteners pretty and blue $15


Scales, substitute for basic micarta:
Black Linen micarta $10
Double Black canvas micarta $10
OD green micarta $10
Burlap micarta $20
Double red (maroon) canvas micarta $20
OD green or Black G10 $10
Terotuf (grey or bright green or OD green) $20
Edge cut antique Micarta $100
Mystery wood (prolly something really crappy like an old dry rotted Ikea bookshelf) $150

Shipping in the USA is $13. Multiples do not accrue additional shipping.


Price includes an excellent kydex sheath. Your choice of Taco with Ulticlip, pancake with semirigid drop loop, pancake with Teklok. The Teklock can be turned 90 degrees for horizontal carry. The Ulticlip works inside the waistband or in a pocket. The semirigid drop loop is pretty close to an old-school belt sheath.

















The DEK3 is for you guys wanting something hard and thin and hollow ground.

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1/8" stock, hard as a woodpecker's lips and ground down to an atom. Behold our first non-rough-use knife since the potato knives and our first hollow ground production model since the skinners. Is it a tactical santoku? It's light as a feather and cuts like a laser. 10" hollow ground in either modified Delta 3V at HRC 61.5-62 or Magnacut. The rear swedge is thin and can be sharpened. The swedge does not come all the way to the point to prevent the tip from being overly fragile.

Here are the specs:

Specs:
10" hollow grind. Ground to tangent.
Delta 3V, 61.5 HRC, (.125" thick at ricasso (1/8") (Magnacut optional)
Total length 9.125
Blade length 4.5
Weight 4.8 oz
Edge angle 18 DPS
Grippy 3D machined scales in micarta or G10
Titanium fasteners
Hidden lanyard
Fiendishly sharp


These are all "field grade", machined and tumbled with tool and grind marks.


Basic vanilla configuration, with sheath, does not include shipping:
$375 in canvas micarta, black or natural

^This is a very good value for this knife and is the configuration that I recommend.

Optional add ons available in addition to plain vanilla:
Double edged tip (the entire back of the point is sharpened. This point cuts in both directions, this is not a penetrator point) $50
Sharpen the rear swedge $40
Double edge tip and rear sharp swedge (the two options above combined) $75
Acid wash (will show wear with use) $50
Satin grind after tumble (super clean 220 grit hand ground finish) $150
Magnacut stainless steel with optimized heat treat rather than Delta 3V, same price
Make my titanium fasteners pretty and blue $15


Scales, substitute for basic micarta:
Black Linen micarta $10
Double Black canvas micarta $10
OD green micarta $10
Burlap micarta $20
Double red (maroon) canvas micarta $20
OD green or Black G10 $10
Terotuf (grey or bright green or OD green) $20
Edge cut antique Micarta $100
Mystery wood (prolly something really crappy like an old dry rotted Ikea bookshelf) $150

Shipping in the USA is $13. Multiples do not accrue additional shipping.


Price includes an excellent kydex sheath. Your choice of Taco with Ulticlip, pancake with semirigid drop loop, pancake with Teklok.
 
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Nathan the Machinist

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Note on the antique micarta

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This is very old surplus that I bought up from a ship builder who was using it before I was even born. I don't know who made it, though Westinghouse was the big name in the business back when this would have been made. It has been compared to known samples of Westinghouse micarta and it appears that this is almost certainly what it is. It is quality material that machines well, polishes evenly and is more thoroughly resin impregnated and harder than material I can find available today. It is proven to be "good stuff". The material is natural color but has aged into a deep brown throughout most of the thickness from oxygen, but there are some areas that are lighter in color, so it is streaky and multi color. It's actually a really cool look IMO. I will book match the pieces as I saw it up and make sure the two sides of the knife are a good match, but you get what you get. If you want light color, multi color or solid dark you can request it and if we have it I'll try to match up people's request with available scales, but understand this color is naturally occurring and varies and you get what you get, probably mostly solid dark brown.



Your sheath choices

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Your choice of Taco with Ulticlip, pancake with semirigid drop loop, pancake with Teklok. The Teklock can be turned 90 degrees for horizontal carry. The Ulticlip works inside the waistband or in a pocket. The semirigid drop loop is pretty close to an old-school belt sheath.


The ordering process:

Post your order on this thread. This thread is my order list. You can edit your post as necessary.

I'm going to take full payment in advance and hold your money. Once your order is confirmed there are no refunds, changes or cancellations.

As I'm building these, some of the knives made will go to this pre-order and some will be sold in regular sales. This means you will see knives being sold while you're waiting for your knife.

When you place your order, it will sit on the order thread for a day or more before you send your email finalizing your order. In that time frame you can edit your post and change your order. Once you send Jo an email confirming your order it is finalized. Please don't add changes after-the-fact because it is this sort of thing that has made lists unmanageable in the past.

Unless the numbers get crazy I'll leave this list up for a week.


Once you are certain about your order please send an email to Jo at jocarothers (at) gmail (dot) com. A good subject line would be: "DEK Pre-order, post number #X"

Please include the following information in your email:

1: Your post number on this sale thread.
2: Bladeforums name. (for example "Jo the Machinist")
3: Real Name.
4: PayPal email address so we can send a paypal invoice (or ask about other payment options).
5: Shipping address.
6: Your desired configuration and options such as scales, finish and steel.
7: Any questions you may have or special instructions.

Once we receive this information, if everything is there, we will send you a PayPal invoice. If information is missing or you have additional questions, Jo will reply to your email. When your email is read and processed she will send you a reply letting you know we've received your information.




If, after a while, you don't hear from us and we don't hear from you, something is getting lost in the interwebs or spam filters. So if you haven't confirmed your order and received your invoice after a week or two you should contact Jo at jocarothers at gmail dought com.



Due to the timing of this preorder here at the end of the year we may wait until after the holidays to invoice some of you. There are tax reasons and we're also going to take a week off for Christmas and new years. If the numbers get crazy we will finish invoicing after the turn of the year. Don't worry, this will not affect the time it takes to ship your order. I will close this pre-order early if the numbers get too wild.
 
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prom52

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In for one DEK1, D3V w/ taco sheath & custom options. Decided to wait and pick up a DEK3 during a Friday sale next year.

Will email Jo with additional specifications for the DEK1.

Thanks for an awesome pre-order to finish out 2021 and ring in the new year !

12/27 paid
 
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Mike157

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Quantity 1ea. - DEK1, Magna Cut, burlap scales, pancake sheath
Quantity 2 ea. - DEK2, black micarta scales, taco sheaths
Quantity 1 ea. - DEK3, Magna Cut, burlap scales, taco sheath
Quantity 1 ea. - DEK3, CPM-3V, double edge tip and rear sharp swedge, satin finish, antique micarta scales, pancake sheath

Thank you! Mike

12/21 paid
 
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Raptard

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In and email sent.

Thank you and Merry Christmas.

12/27 invoiced

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twyych

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1x DEK1 Magnacut with swedge and antique micarta (streaky/multicolor if possible), taco sheath w/o hardware, and if possible a standalone drop loop for my existing sheath (already have a pancake)

1x DEK3 Magnacut, unbuffed G10, taco sheath w/ ulti clip AND pancake sheath w/ drop loop

1 extra set of grey terotuff scales.

--My mailing address will likely change within the next 6-18 months--

email sent

12/29 invoice scheduled for 1/1/22

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Notsharp

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In

1 DEK 2
Grey Terotuf
Taco sheath with Ulticlip

1 DEK 3
Black Linen Micarta
Make fasteners pretty and blue
Taco sheath with Ulticlip

12/27 paid
 
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Casinostocks

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I am in for 2 please, one of model plus some extra wood scales. Thank you:

- 1 x DEK2: acid wash + satin primary finish / swedge / dark wood scales / shiny Ti hardware / drop loop pancake sheath

- 1 x DEK3: D3v / satin grind / double-edge tip + rear sharp swedge / dark wood scales / shiny Ti / drop loop pancake sheath

- 1 x extra set of light colored (Osage?) wood scales with shiny Ti hardware

Quantities and configurations shall remain top, Top, TOP SECRET. Well, no longer a secret!

12/29 emailed

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Details to follow.

12/29 emailed

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jus_gus

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I would like a DEK3 in D3V, sharpened swedge, ECAM scales (multi colored and streaked like the one in the photo if possible), and a taco sheath with Ulticlip please.
Thank you CPK team! :thumbsup::)

12/29 emailed

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HKP7K3

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Oh the decisions........

1) Dek 2, Swedge, Satin, Grey Terotuf, Blue Fasteners, Pancake w/Droploop
2) Dek 3, Double edge tip and sharpen rear swedge, Satin, Mystery Wood, Taco w/Ulti clip

Thanks to all involved in this project!

12/27 invoiced
 
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