Clubs and Spears

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The recent thread on defence against dogs got me thinking about these things.

Folks talked about using a walking stick (staff) as a weapon. I've toted one of these around quite a bit because it becomes a spear when I fit my Cold Steel Bushman to one end....but more about the spear later.

I have done quite a bit of trapping. When animals are caught in a snare, they will often be quite alive and well when I get to them.... and they need to be despatched. A decent clout from my heavy staff certainly will do this, but I've found it to be very difficult to wield this relatively long staff quickly and accurately.... especially when working around brush or uneven ground.

I guess people like Robin Hood, Little John and various folks like Kendo practitioners could have great success with using a staff as a club/weapon. But frankly a long bare staff would not be high on my list as a weapon. It might look formidable, but I think I simply couldn't move it quick enough in a tricky situation.... and I'm not prepared to put in the daily practice.

Maybe somebody has some helpful advice about this. I know that our Maori folk here had a weapon called a Taiaha which was a combination spear/club and it is impressive to see modern enthusiasts work out with one of those.

In the picture below, the tool second from the left, is the style of club which has served me very well on the trapline. The bent bit seems like it might add some weight without adding proportionate length. I can use it quickly with one hand and boy does it deliver some horsepower. I think that one is made from black locust.

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In some pictures of 'primitive' Africans I've seen, I have noticed the clubs that some of them carry. These appear to be relatively short (maybe 3 or 4 feet) and they have a knob at one end. I guess these will be made from a whole sapling, with the knob being carved from the rootball or crown. These guys have worked around big animals for thousands of years, and I'd say they are experts when it comes to using sticks. Food for thought.

A short thrusting spear is better than a knife for dealing with big animals, either on the loose or caught in a snare... although a gun is best if possible. Here is a pic showing the spear and a boar that was killed with it (forgive me if you've seen this before). The blade slips on to a taper whittled on the end of the 'walking stick', and it is held in place with cord.

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Here is a pic showing how I fix the blade to the handle of the spear using cord. Some people might use a screw or nail to hold it in place. I like the handle to look innocent when the blade isn't attached, so the cord suits me better even if it isn't as neat.

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the african stick is called a knob kerrie. It is a huntsmans prized possession, used for walking, pointing, gesturing and clubbing. I have a modern day version but am in the process of making one from a solid piece of oak.
 
Yeah.... knob kerrie. I've heard the name before. Got any further details on the original versions of these please Bushman5? I wouldn't mind making one myself.

The sgian dubh was made by a talented craftsman who lives maybe a two-hour drive away from me. His name is Ed Shaw and he is also an accomplished bowyer, hunter and farmer. He's even made a couple of muzzle loading rifles from lumps of steel and wood. It is a nice knife but I hardly ever use it, although the blade has quite a patina now. I'm thinking that maybe I should sell it along with other gear that clutters my storage areas. Hmmm... perhaps I could swap it for something smaller.

The Bushman on the spear was cut down in size from the original full-sized knife. If I were to get another one I'd go for the smaller version if it is still available. I find that the cut down knife sits much more securely in the factory sheath. I was always concerned that the knife would fall out of the sheath when it was full-sized.
 
I know that our Maori folk here had a weapon called a Taiaha which was a combination spear/club and it is impressive to see modern enthusiasts work out with one of those.

I could be wrong, but I think the "spear" end of the taiaha was not a true spear, but more a tapered area for jabs at pressure points in warfare and defense. Kind of like a really long yawara stick with an oar-like club on the opposite end. Apparently a lot of Maori cubs were used primarily for jabbing blows, rather than traditional arced swings. And I've read they used to do some pretty sadistic stuff with the tapered end of the patu. :eek:
 
I think you are probably correct C.S.G. The taiahas I've seen never seem to be particularly sharp. I still wouldn't want to be on the end of a serious thrust from one.
 
I hope this works. Below is a link to a video showing what appears to be a documentary portraying how African Bushmen might have hunted with a spear. I recall seeing a knob kerrie getting tossed into the air during this movie. The clip is quite long, but it is relatively interesting. Somehow this link brings up youtube in a fuller screen version compared to what I've been used to seeing. Maybe someone knows how to change it to get the normal view with the commentaries etc.

http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?swf=http%3A//s.ytimg.com/yt/swf/cps-vfl74240.swf&video_id=52k6FdApB94&rel=1&eurl=&iurl=http%3A//i2.ytimg.com/vi/52k6FdApB94/hqdefault.jpg&sk=_35IPpeinBOWnZ80f4LOri9AFUs6bygAC&use_get_video_info=1&load_modules=1&amp=
 
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I've always wanted to make or acquire one of these baddies:

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I believe that particular one is a Samoan war club. It is quite beastly in person. I can't seem to find my pics of some of the other Polynesian war clubs and spears, but there are some truly nasty ones in the Bishop Museum back home on Oahu. A few of them are HUGE; I couldn't wield one effectively, but I know a few Samoans and Tongans who definitely could :D

One other one I've always wanted is one of the Hawaiian shark tooth war clubs ("pahoa" or "lei o mano" IIRC):
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(replica of one type of shark tooth club, pic is not my own)
 
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crushing a mans skull and pulping his brain in the process is quite the effective way to dispatch your tribes enemies........or a feral dog.........
 
Staff is a very generic term, which can cover things ranging from 3 or so feet up to 8!

All martial arts training techniques and secrets of the UK quarterstaff revival stuff aside, it's VERY simple to get fast with strikes. This doesn't make you a skilled staff versus staff fighter, but it's easy.

Get a 1 inch hardwood dowel (or shave an octagon out of 2x2 hardwood)- something heavish, not red oak. Real hardoowd. make it 42 to 50 inches long (I'm 5'11" and I go 47 on the staff)

You'll find this is right about the traditional length for a scottish cromach. Instead of the crook on a cromach, though, we are going for dead straight. pop some copper pipe end caps on the ends. You want them to fit tight and have to be mallet hammered on, then drill a 3/16 hole clear through the side and pin it with peened copper wire. (I think 2 gauge?)

Okay, now go find something to hit. I like a tree wrapped with some carpet. Or a wavemaster. Whatever. hold the stick around shoulder width apart, feet even and squarely facing the target. You'll have about a foot sticking out past each hand. The level of the stick (which is horizontal) should be about your navel. You aren't draggin your arms, they are active and holding the stick up a bit, about navel height.

Now slowly hit the tree, sliding the 'front' hand down towards the back hand as you go. Your hips and feet should rotate into the strike. You can do this head, shoulder, waist or knee high, it doesn't really matter.

Repeat several hundred times over the course of a week, feeling how you need to rotate your body and possibly slide one foot or the other out a bit. go faster as you get comfortable, until you can really whip it in.


If you pay attention to your body movements, several natural variations will become obvious.

The boring detail part is that you are spinning the staff around a central pivot point between your hands. As the fore hand moves closer to your rear hand, the fulcrum or pivot point slides back, increasing the speed of the striking end beyond what you could do just wigning it out there without sliding your hand. (The front hand becomes very loos eand is pushing, while the rear hand maintains a grip and pulls in a bit.)

The best thing I ever saw was owned by a german friend. It was an extended alpine walking stick- 44 inches long with a pointed steel tip on the bottom and what looks like a mini pick mattock on the head.

Regular cane heights ones can be had from places like japan woodworker, but I've been contemplating having one of the custom hawk makers on BF do me up a head and tip set to mount on a nice ipe stick.
 
I found a site where a guy makes what he calls "bonkers" which are basically what you have in your photo coote, heavy ended clubs. I don't think I can post a link though as he sells them. Search "bonker shillelaghs" in google and it should come up.
 
The taiahas I've seen never seem to be particularly sharp. I still wouldn't want to be on the end of a serious thrust from one.

Hell no! :eek:

The best thing I ever saw was owned by a german friend. It was an extended alpine walking stick- 44 inches long with a pointed steel tip on the bottom and what looks like a mini pick mattock on the head.

Hmm, like a long, light warhammer?

Also reminds me of the Carpathian walaska. Basically a walking stick with a small axe head on top.

I've always wanted to make or acquire one of these baddies:

That's a beaut. Any idea the size? Must be pretty substantial from your description.
 
Hmm, I wish I had something in that pic for reference, but that club might have been around 3' or 4' long maybe? I saw a few that were easily 5' with nasty heads that must have took a giant to swing easily and quickly. If I remember correctly, the particular type of club pictured above was geared towards snapping bones by hitting with the edges.
 
Thanks for the instructions and comments! I hope to study them later after I've done some work.
 
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