Cody Lundin depiction in Dual Survival

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I have a high regard for Lundin's survival books and through the hippy vibe, he gives a lot of good practical advice. I'm sure many would agree that his work stands out.

Which is why I get a sinking feeling that his upcoming show "Dual Survival", may end up taking away some of his credibility. The trailers show him pairing up with a more conventional survival expert (I'm guessing the it's another expert) who seems to be criticizing him over various choices he makes (like lack of shoes). He may be correct, but it makes me wonder if they are making the show into "The Odd Couple" version of a Survival show. I am not a survival expert or even anywhere close to a hard core practitioner, but why let him get on national exposure that way? His work and persona stands well enough by itself, why share the limelight while at the same time willingly expose himself to scorn like that?
Just wondering.... maybe I'm not getting something
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EDIT: some clips from the Discovery Channel. They seem pretty respectful of each other. I guess the shoeless scenes gave that impression. Never mind. :)
 
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youve got it right.........

Its designed to show two polar opposites for good TV.
Now seeing these are both survival experts (Dave Canterbury) is the other guy we should still learn from this depending on what discovery has told them to promote.
Ill still watch
 
cheftothestars said:
youve got it right.........

Its designed to show two polar opposites for good TV.
Now seeing these are both survival experts (Dave Canterbury) is the other guy we should still learn from this depending on what discovery has told them to promote.
Ill still watch
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Yeah, same here. I suppose their different views will be entertaining.
 
That is part of what should make the show valuable. Both men take a different tack in their techniques and philosophy. Both are expeienced and damn good as well. Plus both are no BS honest individuals who want to keep the show accurate in its content and depictions.

I look forward to it.
 
brother canterbury seems to think it went pretty well.

i wonder if he used my machete that i gave him, in the series. - that's the closest that i'll ever be to famous probably LOL.


i think it will be a good show - any show that makes survival fun, is a potential plus for those of us who like to go out and get off of the trail without nature nazis harassing us, or folks asking if it is illegal to eat a weed.... :cool::thumbup:

vec
 
it really comes down to the editing and how the producers want to show each man. both guys seem stand up and im sure they had a good time working with each other. one thing ive learned over the years is to open myself to newthoughts and ideas...im sure dave and cody were both happy to possibly glean some new info from each other...we are ever evolving students.

i pray they dont make it Real World-ish
 
I think it will be a good show. Both have completely different styles, and I believe that will make the show even better. I doubt that it will hurt his credibility any.
 
Cody Lundin is one of my heroes, but I still wear shoes. I'll listen to anyone's opinion, then make up my own mind. I'm sure I'll have something to learn from both of these guys. The contrast between them will make it entertaining and thought provoking.
 
shangchi108 said:
Cody Lundin is one of my heroes, but I still wear shoes. I'll listen to anyone's opinion, then make up my own mind. I'm sure I'll have something to learn from both of these guys. The contrast between them will make it entertaining and thought provoking.
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That's my philosophy as well. I respect both Lundin and Canterbury and appreciate both schools of thought. I too won't be running around bare-foot, but that doesn't take away the experience and skill of Lundin. I'm probably more in the Canterbury camp, but both have a wealth of knowledge. I really hope it turns out to be an educational show...both of these guys are professionals and understand the need to keep the show educational and not let the petty things distrupt their desire to teach and train survival.

ROCK6
 
wildmike said:
That is part of what should make the show valuable. Both men take a different tack in their techniques and philosophy. Both are expeienced and damn good as well. Plus both are no BS honest individuals who want to keep the show accurate in its content and depictions.

I look forward to it.
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That's the impression I got from the clips as well. Dave kinda pointed out it was foolish to be in 10 degree weather barefoot, Cody pointed out it was foolish to go check traps in below zero dark with only a poorly constructed torch for light. Then there are clips where they praised each other, like Dave praising Cody for the shelter he'd constructed, Cody praising Dave for getting a porkupine for dinner. I actually like the idea of two experts so they can point out the things that the other does really well or the stu pid risks the other takes.

JMO
David
 
Quoted from Dave Canterbury's FB page:

"Dave Canterbury (Pathfinder): Let me set the record straight now. Cody Lundin and I are like Brothers, we can give each other all the hell in the world but if anyone else does it is not cool, It is Television please remember that. Trust me when I say the show will be amazing PS I have nothing against hippies, again it is a brother to brother thing... not to be taken wrong by anyone who has long hair or thin skin!"

&

"Dave Canterbury (Pathfinder): It's not competiition fellas it is learning and teaching together and with each other, trying different ways and sometimes not agreeing which is best"
 
The only hippies I hate are arrogant know it all hippies. But then again that's how I feel about hipsters, conservatives, liberals, church fanatics etc.

I think all of the people on this board are hippy in one way or another. ;)
 
Ive only heard about Cody Lundinon the internet, but never read his books or anything. I didnt even know what he looked like untill 5 min ago. I just saw all the clips on Discoverys website and my jaw dropped when i saw Cody Lundin in snowy arctic Nova Scotia barefoot and in shorts! At the end of the clip he finally decides to take some socks on! :eek: Should be fun to watch!

Im looking forward to the show, they both look down to earth.

P.S
Codys winter shelter made up of plastic and alu blanket was genius! Such a simple concept, yet so effective!
 
If they're *true* professionals, they will agree there is usually more than 1 right way to do most things - especially "survival" types of things.

All differences aside, it should be a fun watch!
 
fmajor007 said:
If they're *true* professionals, they will agree there is usually more than 1 right way to do most things - especially "survival" types of things.

All differences aside, it should be a fun watch!
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Agreed. I've already got the time and reminder marked in my Blackberry to set the PVR (won't let me set it more than 7 days out).

Looking forward to it, and hope it's more than just "entertainment".
 
I recall hippies from the 60's,they smell bad. Honestly I think Londin has a few screws loose,I'll watch the show and take what I hear with a grain(or pound) of salt. Even if he's a kook it's possible to learn something from him. Anyone know when the show starts?
 
I will be watching the show as I think showing both sides of the coin will be an interesting approach. As it is television I hope they don't try to edit in or set up either guy. I know conflict makes good ratings but this is one time I hope the producers will let the guys get on with it.
 
This is going to be unpopular but that doesn't usually stop me so I shall not let it now:

Why do any of us give a hoot about preserving any image of any celebrity? Why do any of us care if a celebrity is depicted in way that may not maximize their attractiveness?

I'll concede that I am biased but there is something I'm not understanding. I am biased in as much as I am very antipathetical to celebrity, especially within this sphere. I don't believe it is like sports celebrity in as much as we can reasonably assume the top bunch of swimmers in the world are likely to be gathered at the Olympics. It seems more trivial than that, like other forms of celebrity in which promotion or self-promotion is really where the subjects key core skills lay. I think the planet is littered with people with the same survival type skills that by virtue of indifference or lack of promotional awareness or branding go unnoticed. Or at least they go unnoticed at the point from where reputation stops short of celebrity because of a lack of media coverage.

Whilst I might find reputation a useful guide to someone being interesting because of the “warts and all” way reputation tends to be gathered, a polished celebrity delivery tells me little because of all the manipulation. Look at the crap that goes on between Grylls and Mears in the pick a celebrity ratings war. Really, who should give a shit about either of them, they are just the front to a media delivery that has used the same support / film crew as the other bloke used. I'm trying to avoid ranting, more trying to acknowledge that I might not be understanding this thread because of this bias.

Hopefully, having got that out the way I should be better positioned to tackle the remainder but I'm not. Often the most useful bits of information come to me when there isn't an agreement. Overhearing two guys arguing over how something should be done usually gives me much more insight than just observing them nodding sagely at each other. The thought process is usually more open, explicit and penetrable and the best idea wins. One sees how it is formed and what lost to it and why. It's hard to play down naff ideas and try to explain them away as some aberration or glitch in the matrix. One guys says; “you need a knife this size that you can hammer into a tree and stand on”, or whatever, and the other guy says “really ...” and goes on to take the piss out of him relentlessly. Cool, that is a fairer reflection of real life to me. You know, like you're in your group and some guy chimes in with “you need a knife you can use as a ladder” and everybody else looks at his mate as if to say “who's the bloody clown you brought this time”. Yup reputation; one demerit, - 1 kudos point, have a 'tard star. The more brutal the better the learning, the clearer the warning. The person depicts themselves, represent! In contrast, this celebrity depiction business seems to me more about distancing the perception of the celebrity from unpleasant actualities than it does disclosing anything truthful about that person and the way the operate. I say give 'em enough rope, and let them hoist themselves by their own petards, same chance I'd give anyone else.
 
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