Cold steel and Lynn Thompson steel choice

cold steel makes user knives he would rather have someone sharpen their knife twice a week instead of a broken super steel that cost more that you only have to sharpen once a week.
 
Doesn't matter what Lynne Thompson choices of steels are, there will be crying babies anyway. There's not such a thing as 1 Steel Choice that satisfy everybody!
And, Not everyone agree with 400$ up super+steel BS folder neither, this is where speculated market meet forums antagonism. "True info = No"
 
Personally, I like Cold Steel. I can't really afford "super steel" knives and tbh, I don't wanna pay $150+ for a folder. Cold Steel gives me the option to have something I like, without costing me more than I care to pay.
 
ishiyumisan said:
Doesn't matter what Lynne Thompson choices of steels are, there will be crying babies anyway. There's not such a thing as 1 Steel Choice that satisfy everybody!
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No kidding. A new knife comes out and it is in 154cm. Groans of disappointment in the subforums and a little bit of whiny posts appear.... why isn't it in VG10? No, wait a minute, why isn't it S30V? No, no, no! Everyone knows it should be Elmax! Why isn't it Elmax? I want Elmax!! They declare that they would have bought that model of knife in every color if they had only made it in a steel they approved of. Yeah, right.

Another knife is announced in another subforum, and it is in 440C. Immediately (if not sooner!) the cries of disappointment start as they all love the 100 year old steel from last century, 1095. They are disappointed in the fact that stainless is used on any knife and have gone so far back to their roots that they disregard even high grade carbon tool steels like D2. Their 100 year old steel or no steel.

NO MATTER WHAT STEEL IT IS, people here complain. New steels, old steels, proven steels or any other kind of steel, most people aren't happy with company selection. And everyone knows best, regardless of circumstance.

However, I find that when I look for their company web age to see what they are making their knives from I can't find one. ?????

Sheeesh.

Robert
 
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Ain't good for CS to be market-complacent. Cheap import knives with better-steels are flooding in. 3V is a good start but too pricy for ordinary users.
 
I don't know why CS doesn't use higher end steels, but i actually like Aus8 on CS knives. Aus8 does not hold an edge better than many other steels, but it is softer and more forgiving. I buy a CS knife and use it for tasks that would blunt a CPM S30V steel easily, but it sharpens much more easily and doesn't chip easily too.
For other tasks (mostly household, opening packages etc), I use my Spyderco instead.
Different steel for different purpose.
 
I would love if CS made some knives without the Tri-ad lock. The lock is great, but using it tear my thumb up. A simple frame lock or thicker liner lock would work well, and if you couple that with a knife that doesn't have horribly obtuse factory edges, you have a winner... On second though, I will just stick with my "fragile" knives. I don't need the obscene strength in a folder (because these things called fixed blades exist), and I like to not have to grind off significant steel to get a good edge.

For the record the factory grinds are what keep me away. The only CS that didn't have a horribly obtuse edge that I have seen are the VG-1 blades. Everything else had a factory edge of well over 40° inclusive, and combine that with the thicker steel, it cuts like a brick.
 
Haven't had a Mora then? CS does decently sharp factory edges, but as I understand cutting physics, the more acute the angle, the sharper it can get. I could be wrong, but multiple people have said the same thing.
 
dkb45 said:
Haven't had a Mora then? CS does decently sharp factory edges, but as I understand cutting physics, the more acute the angle, the sharper it can get. I could be wrong, but multiple people have said the same thing.
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My Voyager had an obtuse angle, I'd guess around 50 degrees inclusive, I had (wanted to) to reprofile it to about 35-40 and it was kind of a pain with the recurve and all.

I like the Triad lock though, I prefer lockbacks to frame, liner, Axis, compression locks, etc, and the Triad lock is basically an improved lockback. I haven't had any problems with it yet.
 
I had a Counter Point for a short while before I got fed up with the horrid edge angles. Wound up getting rid of it because it came with a 60° inclusive edge, and my Lansky got the edge down to a microbevel before it would just not progress any more. With that knife I realized that the triad lock blows on smaller folders, especially because you wouldn't put a small folder though hard use (unless you really like living on the edge). The waved knives are a lot better because they open with the wave, but the thumb stud ones suck for the triad.
 
dkb45 said:
I had a Counter Point for a short while before I got fed up with the horrid edge angles. Wound up getting rid of it because it came with a 60° inclusive edge, and my Lansky got the edge down to a microbevel before it would just not progress any more. With that knife I realized that the triad lock blows on smaller folders, especially because you wouldn't put a small folder though hard use (unless you really like living on the edge). The waved knives are a lot better because they open with the wave, but the thumb stud ones suck for the triad.
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I did notice the smallest Voyager I have was much harder to unlock, for whatever reason, than the two larger versions. Also the blade was harder to drop down for closing. The two larger ones worked very well but the medium size was pretty darn "sticky"!
 
it just seems to me theyd offer one type of folder with some better steel...when I heard the code 4 was coming out I was hoping for something decent...i'm not talking super steel either...doesn't have to be m390...like someone said earlier there are tons of cheap knives flooding in with better steel than aus8...complacency isn't going to get you anywhere
 
Scurvy092 said:
Aus8 is an asian steel. Cold Steel is made in Asia. It's probably not practical for them to send high end American/German steels to Asia for mass production. Spyderco does it but I'm pretty sure they are doing it in much smaller runs than CS would be.
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CS is constantly flaunting their Japanese AUS-8 and their German 1.4116. They already import European steel, and Japan makes some the best steels available (AUS-10, VG-10, ZDP, etc.). Lynn is just complacent with CS not pushing the envelope when other companies are pushing innovation and value. Hell, even SOG is stepping it up this year for innovation. I have a feeling that the CS sales numbers are slowly diminishing, and once they hit a certain point action will be warranted (which may be closer than you think... why else would they suddenly use 3V?), and something will have to change.
 
aus 10 and vg 10 would be sweet and I doubt it'd be a considerable increase in price....i'd also like to see demko make an axis type lock that is as rock solid as the triad
 
Goosey said:
Ehhhh, I disagree, I take mine everywhere.

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Anyways what Marcinek said. Higher steels would bump up costs and their main market probably doesn't want to pay those costs when AUS8 works fine for them.
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Hey, if you like to carry the lg Vaqueror then go for it! Great working knife, just too thick for me. My American lawman is PERFECT. I also think my med, G-10 Espada is thin enough to edc comfortably.
 
Since they apparently discovered "faux G-10" I'm guessing "faux titanium" is soon to be discovered as well..
 
matt_b89 said:
aus 10 and vg 10 would be sweet and I doubt it'd be a considerable increase in price....i'd also like to see demko make an axis type lock that is as rock solid as the triad
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CS used to use an axis lock before the triad. Look up Cold Steel Ultra Lock.
 
Everyone of us here have at least handled or fondled a CS before. I would be ashamed if i don't have a tri-ad lock in my stash.
 
dkb45 said:
CS used to use an axis lock before the triad. Look up Cold Steel Ultra Lock.
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It was called the Ultra-Lock. It was quite similar to the Benchmade Axis-Lock, but not as smooth in operation, especially when closing the knife in my experience.
 
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