Well I went back to academy and checked out the endura a little closer. Really really like it!! It was an orange model and I already have an orange Dragon fly so I wasnt too sure about the color. But the zdp version is seriously calling my name.... The one I handled at academy had a considerably more sturdy feel. Both it and the delica I looked at had a stronger backspring and snap than my ffg delica that was one of the first flatground models. Is it just because they were new or did spyderco start building them a little stronger?