Cold Steel Counter Point 2

[res1cue]

Bases on recent posts in the "Cold Steel Counter Point I quick review" thread (review sub-forum),

...performance of the steel/HT on these seems better then expected,

...according to those who had not had the chance to use it before posting some comparison pictures. A crime apparantly

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[Big Mike]

Bases on recent posts in the "Cold Steel Counter Point I quick review" thread (review sub-forum),

...performance of the steel/HT on these seems better then expected,

...according to those who did not expect much.

..."not had the chance to use it before posting some comparison pictures. A crime apparantly"...

quote added by res1cue.


Fixed

If you say so.



It's good to see that actually using a knife can help dispel preconceived notions of a steels performance.



As we have seen, heat treatment and blade geometry are as important as metallurgy when it comes to knives.



Some of the overseas knifemakers are making improvements in their HT and overall QC,

...this was first apparent on some of the high end knives, good to see it trickling down to lower priced items.


It's nice to see people pleasantly surprised by a blade performing better then expected.


Sounds like a win-win situation for all involved.



Big Mike

 

[klute]

So.

Cold Steel seems to have "borrowed" the blade geometry on the CP2 from the S2K.
I don't have a problem with that if it's within the laws of industry, i know they do it alot and i do sort of question that
as in can't they be more creative but this is business / business is war right?

Then again copying is a form of compliment, i think this knife is an excellent SD option which is my plan for the one i have for now.

Lookin for a CP1 now.

 

[res1cue]

That is a big topic you are getting into. First there is the argument that all blade shapes/grinds have been done over the centuries and you can't really patent a blade shape (as far as I know)

Also, CS + bob lum together popularized the americanized tanto blade shape, which almost everybody has a model of now (except spyderco)

And finally, the shape you are referring to is also seen on plenty of other knives, like the Gryphon M10 and the Spyderco Native to some degree

 

[klute]

I didn't know that. Thanks for makin me aware of it.

I take back what i said then.

Anyway, i think it's a VERY good SD design and i need that, can't afford a better sidearm.

 

[res1cue]

I didn't know that. Thanks for makin me aware of it.

I take back what i said then.

Anyway, i think it's a VERY good SD design and i need that, can't afford a better sidearm.

No problem, but do keep in mind that almost every knife company out there is guilty of this in one way or another (except spyderco probably.. they have good ethics). I am a big CS fan, but I will acknowledge their faults. There are plenty of untruths floating around. Case in point:

-Myth that they used a licensed copy of the Axis lock. Not true, they made their own similar version
-Myth that they copied the SRK off of Fallkniven. Not true, SRK was out first. (Don't even know where the BM CSK falls in all this)
-People say they copied the tanto off of Bob Lum. I honestly don't know enough to comment on this
-People say they copied the GI tanto off of Strider. I don't know anything about this either, but it looks obvious they did
-Myth that Andrew Demko copied the triad lock off some other guy (can't remember the name). Not true, even though CS did buy the other guy's patent.

And I am sure there are a ton more out there.

 

[klute]

Haters gonna hate. Lynn Thompson goes to the bank.

I wont defend any shortcomings they have either.