Cold steel new models with new steels vs Spyderco ,Bunchmade and kershaw (PRICES)

Well it's up for $360 at pre-order. That's got a good steel, ti liners/backspacer, made in USA and may be the closest thing to the Demko AD series that are apparently pretty hard to come by.
 
crom said:
Well it's up for $360 at pre-order. That's got a good steel, ti liners/backspacer, made in USA and may be the closest thing to the Demko AD series that are apparently pretty hard to come by.
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It has piqued my interest for sure. Thanks, I've never seen it before. Would like to get one in hand. I always wanted a Demko custom but are hard to come by. At that price though, I take back my glove box idea :D
 
Anyone know if and when these will be available other than CS's website?
 
My two cents...

Im a big benchmade fan. Ive bought about 6 of their knives, with absolute zero issues. Theyre products are absolute top notch.

Spydercos Taiwan factory is phenominal. Ive owned 3 taiwan spydercos, aswell as a paramillie and a millie. In my experience, spydercos T factory makes MUCH finer products than their us factory.

Cold steel... Not for me. Ive tried liking their knives, but they just dont feel "right" too me. Their aus 8 across the board, plus their giant plastic scales just totally turn me off.

I get a huge grin on my face when I fondel a knife that feels like "quality" and ive never gotten those vibes from cold steel, but thats obviously my biased opinion :)
 
Stays Sharp said:
No ****! So back to what I said... $600 on their website or MSRP is in-line with the other two brand's $500 MSRP knives also. The Spyderco Rubicon and Slysz Bowie are $250-$280 street price. That was also the case with BM until MAP enforcement but at the 4MAX preorder of $300-$350, you can get a BM 761... I was just teasing since the OP and the thread was about value at $100-$150, AND CS offering better value NOW. 4MAX does not appear to be the best example.

I have no problem with the price and assumed that street value will be much lower.
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The OP was talking about all of cold steel's offerings, not just the 4 max. IMO the 4max is not a good value... not good looking and a tank. But the 4max certainly does not represent most of the cold steel line in terms of value. Like I said earlier, the only knife in their line that speaks to me right now is the hunter line in 3v. I think the master hunter in 3v at under $120 represents very excellent value.
 
K.O.D. said:
Anyone know if and when these will be available other than CS's website?
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If? They're a production knife company, all of these are production runs, all of them will be available at any vendor that currently sells Cold Steel products, which is pretty much every knife vendor. As for when, well, that they don't know yet. This is the entire 2015 lineup, I'm sure parts of it will be released throughout the year. I think the CS rep on their forum estimated the Master Hunter around May or June, while the upgraded Recons, Rajahs, and Spartan(possibly others) are shipping now.
 
K.O.D. said:
Anyone know if and when these will be available other than CS's website?
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If? Definitely, Knifecenter already has them up for preorder. When is less certain, the CS rep said a few models were ready to ship, others will probably trickle out throughout the year.
 
Scurvy092 said:
Well when you spend decades sending production overseas enabling those countries to outfit their manufacturing base with the latest and greatest equipment while your plant in America stagnates, what do you expect.
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Honestly I dont think that is the case. People have said that but to me it doesnt make much sense. I havent seen any proof that any of the chinese makers producing high quality knives have any roots in producing knives for any companies using china for outsourcing. I dont know of a single USA based company that has been producing high end knives in china. Its always been the entry level knives that to me dont look like they were being made on state of the are equipment. From what I have seen while some of the higher end companies go their start making clones I have not heard of any instances where a factory that was producing knives for a USA based company learned the trade for them and started making their own knives. At least not any of the ones doing the good stuff.

craytab said:
If you compare US produced Kershaws and Spydercos to similarly priced overseas produced SOGs or CRKTs or other US companies it does hold true! It is less about the country of origin and more about the company and their commitment to well thought out and quality manufacturing including quality control. If a company really wants to do it right overseas they can but it will either mean they will make less profit as control to higher standards raises costs or the will need to raise the price of their product.

And really, like what Scurvy said, cost will be a major factor. You are always going to need to pay more for higher quality, no matter where it is made.
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I dont really think those companies compare very well. CRKT and SOG compare more to Gerber and Buck IMHO. When talking Kershaw, zt and spyderco you are looking more at Reate, Kizer and the like. And while it is true that you will always pay more for higher quality and better materials overseas production seems to be leading in the price per options ratio. Not by a huge margin but ther are differences in just how intricate a design can be at a given price point.
 
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