Cold Steel Nightshade Knives

Confederate said:
C'mon, these things are not knives. They're last ditch weapons that either fulfill a need or not. They're light weight and strong; they can be stashed on the inside of safes or hung on strings behind doors. They can hang around your neck with no worry about corrosion or weight. And they can be left in the trunks of cars. (There are a number of cases involving abducted women being forced into the trunks of their own cars and driven to isolated places where, when the trunks were opened, the victims put four or five bullets into their assailants. The moral is that anyone can be abducted and that a weapon in a trunk can come in mighty handy. Also, if you have to change a car tire at night. For its weight, a Nightshade can exact a great deal of damage, especially if someone's not expecting it.)

Nightshades also can be used as weapons in animal attacks and can be handy if you need to stop at a rest site when you might feel somewhat less than secure. Two of them can actually be better than one steel knife when one is wielded in each hand.
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Why not stash some Old Hickory knives all over the place? About a third the price, and made of 1095 so you can actually put an edge on it. Hell, you can have one in each hand and have enough money left over to put one in your teeth and tuck a spare in your sock. It might rust, but if it's a last ditch weapon you probably won't mind giving the guy tetanus.

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kjbenner said:
Why not stash some Old Hickory knives all over the place? About a third the price, and made of 1095 so you can actually put an edge on it. Hell, you can have one in each hand and have enough money left over to put one in your teeth and tuck a spare in your sock. It might rust, but if it's a last ditch weapon you probably won't mind giving the guy tetanus.

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exactly....confederate makes an excelent point, but for a knife in general, what you said confederate does not make a plastic knife any better for the job at ahnd, but realy worse...Not onyl will it have an ifferior edge, but if used on someone you will have to explain why you have an itme like that to a judge...They don't like "balistic" weapons, sicne they pass threough metal detectors...just carry one one on you is asking for trouble...It should not be an issue (what knife you carry, and why), but in todays messed up society it is...
 
I actually like the idea of hanging one up in the shower or by a toilet. I, admittedly, feel very vulnerable sitting on the can and showering. Kind of weird paranoia I've had since I was little. So, I can find use in them. Actually carrying them as a weapon is silly and asking for trouble, however.
 
Hey, I agree. But edges are only so good. And that knife you showed is great. The only thing missing is an "Exhibit A" tag!

The Nightshades can inflict very nasty bites, don't sell 'em short. Plus the points can put gaping holes in places that oughtn't to have holes and probably a bit faster than that steak knife. That's why hawkbills have been found to be very effective defensive implements. The point acts like a hook and can do a lot of damage.

The blade sharpness on the Nightshades can be a lot sharper than you guys might think. They're sharper than a lot of blades that come out of a box, not that that's sayin' much. But take a look at one sometime. They can be vicious in their own right.
 
I've been eying the large boot dagger model for the purpose I mentioned, earlier, looks like it has good penetration. Do you think the karambit would be better?
 
Yeah, if you can carry it.

The boot knife is smaller and should be fine at penetration. And that little bugger with the sharp, sharp point and the serrations is extremely wicked. Just wish they had a few mini-sheaths for them.
 
they don't have any edge but they can penetrate. good last ditch knife to store in random places, just in case.
 
I have always wanted to try some of these things out. Many people have used a pen or pencil in defense before so how bad can they be. They look like you could inflect some serious bodily injury with one if needed. I can see them serving a useful purpose in ones defense.

Also I have seen a lot of the prison documentaries on TV and inmates sharpen tooth brushes down to a point and they showed all the damage they can do with one. It is very messy. As they say in the documentaries "inmates get their hands on anything with a point"
 
If I could, I'd drop a cargo plane full of knives into every prison in the country if I thought they'd use them on each other. In a national crisis, if society broke down completely, one wonders what the state would do with them if there was no electricity or there was no way to feed them. I've seen those documentaries and I'd hate to think they'd just open the doors and let them all waltz out.
 
Over here in the UK, they're not a great deal cheaper than some of the regular CS models. I've got a Frosts Swedish Army knfe stashed under the sink next to the can, and another next to the shower. If I wanted something lethal in plastic I'd just file down a toilet brush!
 
Confederate said:
Just because they're cheap, doesn't mean they can't do the job. This
Raven .25 ACP was banned solely because it was made from inexpensive
zinc, which is lightweight and rust proof. But this gun could deliver the
rounds, clip after clip. And they were cheap enough that you could
sock them in places you wouldn't put an expensive firearm. Pity.
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AFAIK Raven and Jennings were all banned for manufacture in Ca, not just the .25 ACP. They were banned due to failing safety tests, not the zinc, unless the failures were due to zinc being crap for gun manufacture. The .22's are pure junk, and the company is now known as Jimenez Arms. Chances of reliability are 50/50. The barrels and other non zinc components will surely rust. Pure unreliable crap. If you got one that worked 100% you got real lucky.
Plastic knives are only good if you want to bypass detection. You can buy a butt load of cheap 420J knives that will not rust easily and will hold an edge much better than plastic.
 
I've had a number of Jennings and Ravens. None of them was junk. None of them rusted in the barrels or anywhere else.

Reliability is better than most .22s of that size, period. After several clips through the gun it begins jamming. But this is because of the crud produced by the dirty .22LR round. Clean it and it's back to perfect firing condition.

The Raven is even more reliable than the Jennings. And both are completely safe as long as someone doesn't carry them with rounds up their snouts.

These are not plinkers, nor are they combat pistols. But both guns have a wide following and I'd buy more if they were available.

Regarding the Nightshade knives, they are what they are. I neither advocate them nor do I diminish them. I've found them to be formidible weapons for what they're designed for. It is true, however, that one can buy bargain steel weapons for about the same price at Smokey Mountain Knife Works that are far more formidible than the ol' "dark as midnight, silent as the grave" plastic knives.

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This one is $5.99.

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And this one is $2.49, and almost a foot long.
 
I got myself one of those things (I guess it's called Sgian Dubh or something, it's inspired after that traditional Scottish dagger) because of pure curiosity.
I guess you can inflict some damage with this stuff, it's pretty sharp and the serrated edge can cut for a while - I made a few lines in a woden board - but not too deep. It's plastic, after all. Quality plastic, and the Kraton handles grip nicely, but still plastic.
And no, I don't think you can sharpen it, at least I couldn't :o
The conclusion: it's an interesting item, and you can defend yourself with one of these, especially if the other guy is empty handed. :jerkit:
 
This is the one you're talking about and is the one I keep in my right suit pocket. It's light weight, invisible and yes, it can do damage. No sheath needed.

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FGX Series Skean Dhu
 
It would make me very nervous to carry such a knife without a sheath on my person, what if you slip and fall? Or someone throws you on the ground? Doesn't the thing poke holes in your clothing?
 
Jack Black said:
Over here in the UK, they're not a great deal cheaper than some of the regular CS models. I've got a Frosts Swedish Army knfe stashed under the sink next to the can, and another next to the shower. If I wanted something lethal in plastic I'd just file down a toilet brush!
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Point made, but I'm actually talking about hanging one from the shower wall where it would be sitting around wet for hours every day. Plastic seems right for the application.
 
Confederate said:
This is the one you're talking about and is the one I keep in my right suit pocket. It's light weight, invisible and yes, it can do damage. No sheath needed.

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Exactly, this is the one, thanks.
While I don't say it is a knife that will solve all your problems, I don't regret buying it either.
 
Not to be an ass, but I just don't get this. Don't you guys carry knives? Steel ones you can actually cut things with? I just don't see the point in having a knife in my pocket for cutting things and another one for stabbing people.

Stashing emergency cutlery in the shower strikes me as a bit odd. You'd think if someone got into your bathroom while you bathed without you noticing, and wanted to kill you, he'd just put a few rounds in you through the shower curtain. Unless you have ballistic shower curtains.

The ONLY advantage any of these knives have over a steel one is that they will not be picked up by metal detectors, and that's only and advantage if you're looking to use it illegally.

If you feel the need to stash weapons about your home or car, why not use something that can have a utility purpose, too?
 
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