puukkoman;
I actually agree with everything you have said.
I should clarify my words by stating that the Nightshade Series, and similar items, are infact efficient in that they will do damage to some extent, and afetr reading what you said, I realise that they are good for being inexpensive, items which can be used for SD at least once, and then discarded, sort of like a disposable weapon, or a hit-and-run knife like the Spyderco Civillian notion.
In that respect, it seems good, in that quote: "it is what it is". However, my main objection was because I personally did not expect the product for what it was, but rather what I believe the marketing portrayed it to be, that and the fact that I paid close to $100 for one... and I'm sure anyone would be annoyed to pay that price and recieve this product.
Knifeclerk;
I have to mention, that I can understand your point of view, and I do think that they are legitimate concerns, although I honestly think that it is something which should be left alone. As stated by others, any mundane object can be used as a weapon, and the only difference between these knives and a plastic chopstick, is that the knives are designed to be weapons, and are marketed in that way.
We all know that weapon prohibition is not 100% effective, and if your worried about the criminally minded individuals using them, then banning them is not the answer, as criminals are those whom acquire "illegal" weapons, so in this respect, your solution backfires in my opinion. By all means, don't promote or stock them in your store, thats your personal choice.
This thread has provided me with a different view, and now I would actually admire such items for what they are, and not what they are pretending to be.
In fact, these would be the perfect "disposable" self-defence item, as like I said, cheap so that anyone can afford 1, light to carry, durable, inconspicious, concealable, and functional to some degree in that it can stab, cut, puncture to a limited extent. Such items, could infact save someone's life, yet then again, it could also take someone's life, but as stated, so could a pencil.... therefore I don't think there is need for concern, and such items should be just left to each individual to decide whether to purchase or not. Simple as that in my opinion.
If the Nightshade Series products, like my karambit, were marketed as "training knives", would people such as Knifeclerk still have a problem I wonder ?... After all, my karambit is a fantastic trainer, and if not advertised as a "stealth-type weapon", what would make it different to any other trainer on the market ?
This is a legitimate question I'd be curious to have answered ?
My thoughts is that the whole "Nightshade Knife" thing would be welcomed and not recieve as much negative feedback if sold simply as " Light-weight, Durable, and Functional Trainers".
"It is what it is".... puukkoman; That's a good way to view it all, Thanks.
I actually agree with everything you have said.
I should clarify my words by stating that the Nightshade Series, and similar items, are infact efficient in that they will do damage to some extent, and afetr reading what you said, I realise that they are good for being inexpensive, items which can be used for SD at least once, and then discarded, sort of like a disposable weapon, or a hit-and-run knife like the Spyderco Civillian notion.
In that respect, it seems good, in that quote: "it is what it is". However, my main objection was because I personally did not expect the product for what it was, but rather what I believe the marketing portrayed it to be, that and the fact that I paid close to $100 for one... and I'm sure anyone would be annoyed to pay that price and recieve this product.
Knifeclerk;
I have to mention, that I can understand your point of view, and I do think that they are legitimate concerns, although I honestly think that it is something which should be left alone. As stated by others, any mundane object can be used as a weapon, and the only difference between these knives and a plastic chopstick, is that the knives are designed to be weapons, and are marketed in that way.
We all know that weapon prohibition is not 100% effective, and if your worried about the criminally minded individuals using them, then banning them is not the answer, as criminals are those whom acquire "illegal" weapons, so in this respect, your solution backfires in my opinion. By all means, don't promote or stock them in your store, thats your personal choice.
This thread has provided me with a different view, and now I would actually admire such items for what they are, and not what they are pretending to be.
In fact, these would be the perfect "disposable" self-defence item, as like I said, cheap so that anyone can afford 1, light to carry, durable, inconspicious, concealable, and functional to some degree in that it can stab, cut, puncture to a limited extent. Such items, could infact save someone's life, yet then again, it could also take someone's life, but as stated, so could a pencil.... therefore I don't think there is need for concern, and such items should be just left to each individual to decide whether to purchase or not. Simple as that in my opinion.
If the Nightshade Series products, like my karambit, were marketed as "training knives", would people such as Knifeclerk still have a problem I wonder ?... After all, my karambit is a fantastic trainer, and if not advertised as a "stealth-type weapon", what would make it different to any other trainer on the market ?
This is a legitimate question I'd be curious to have answered ?
My thoughts is that the whole "Nightshade Knife" thing would be welcomed and not recieve as much negative feedback if sold simply as " Light-weight, Durable, and Functional Trainers".
"It is what it is".... puukkoman; That's a good way to view it all, Thanks.
Any evil looking tactical knives? This sounds like the "assault weapons" ban all over again. Did Dianne Feinstein retire after it passed? 'Course, I believe most of the plastic knives are already illegal in California. Someone else shared your same ideas, and actually succeeded in doing something about it. The liberals don't have a monopoly on such silliness, as you've demonstrated.
