Cold Steel vs. CRKT Lawsuit

And what damage has cold steel suffered from crkts claims? None? Case dismissed.
 
Man, that takes things to a whole new lame level of douchiness. :thumbdn:

At first I thought you must be making a joke thread...I mean really, it just seems ludicrous.
 
Are they mad CRKT didn't test the locks on car hoods, half a cow or by flexing in tight shorts?


I'll have to watch the video as my two CRKT knives had the scariest locks I've ever owned
 
Breaking other company's knives and suing knife companies for being... Knife companies.

Well, they have always been different and have a devoted following that will be here defending it in just a second. I love the triad and the quality of their folders but it's getting harder to like them as a company. I bet many would tell me they've been turned off by their actions years before I ever did.
 
jeffsenpai said:
And what damage has cold steel suffered from crkts claims? None? Case dismissed.
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Exactly. This couldn't be any more frivolous. Since when is it Cold Steel's job to police claims of the knife industry? Pretty sure the consumers would start a class action suit if CRKT's products were so unsafe.

stabman said:
Man, that takes things to a whole new lame level of douchiness. :thumbdn:
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Pure and utter pettiness. :thumbdn: I don't see this ending in any other way than them being blackballed by the rest of the industry.
 
Yeah, I'm actually fine with and encourage the testing and videos, but this just strikes me as litigious for the sake of being litigious. I have no problems with tactics that may well encourage other companies to deliver a stronger product, but I can't see that being the result at all in this case.
 
I agree with Cold Steel's initial complaint - there's no way a folder lock makes a folder a "virtual fixed blade" as CRKT reportedly claims. To me, that does indeed seem to imply that a CRKT folder is a strong as a fixed blade.

I didn't see the CRKT knife tests but if they broke a CS while theirs survived, if I were CS, I'd be PO'ed too. ;)

But "treble damages"?! Maybe it's like in divorce court where she asks for more than you got instead of just half hoping to at least get most of it. ;)
 
Cold Steel Sues CRKT for Allegedly False Claims? :confused: Lol, they should've Sued Quartermaster. :)
 
Insipid Moniker said:
litigious for the sake of being litigious.
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Yup. I mean, we all know Lynn Thompson is a little off, but this takes the cake. CRKT's "virtual fixed blade" marketing is quite dumb. But I don't see how this is going to change that when CS has some of the most outlandish marketing of any company. Oh well. My Recon 1 Spear point in the new steel arrived yesterday! Fantastic knife!
 
TravisH said:
I agree with Cold Steel's initial complaint - there's no way a folder lock makes a folder a "virtual fixed blade" as CRKT reportedly claims.
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But Cold Steel also does not make the strongest and sharpest knives either, yet they claim it.

It's a marketing slogan.
 
I posted the following in the Cold Steel Press release in their tread on this board:

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I am by NO means saying CS is wrong for what they are doing.

I applaud their direction if that's the actual intent of the move.

However, I'm going to play Devil's Advocate for a moment...

"....sounds like someone's trying to eliminate some competition...."

"virtual" - http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/virtual?s=t

adjective
1. being such in power, force, or effect, though not actually or expressly such:
a virtual dependence on charity.
2. Optics.
noting an image formed by the apparent convergence of rays geometrically, but not actually, prolonged, as the image formed by a mirror (opposed to real ).
noting a focus of a system forming virtual images.
3. temporarily simulated or extended by computer software:
a virtual disk in RAM; virtual memory on a hard disk.

Definition #1 seems to apply.....so....if talking about "virtual fixed blade"......and apply it to the definition mentioned above...

"converting a folding blade into a virtual fixed blade" might simply mean "locking the blade makes it as non-folding as a fixed blade, though not actually or expressly."

Well, isn't that true to any locking blade by any company? What about rat tail tang fixed blades? The whole, "catastrophic failure if significant pressure is applied....."....We all know the same applies to that style knife and it is considered a fixed blade. I'd wager my 16 yr old daughter could easily break a rat tail designed fixed blade...I KNOW I have already.

And for the record, I wager that I could have no problem breaking a CS lock, touted as "the worlds strongest lock." Any mechanical lock is subject to failure...So should CS be sued in that case?

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/380507-Cold-steel-voyager-lock-failure

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/757637-Tri-Ad-Lock-Failure

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WoEJwE2UsU


I'm curious. What's the actual issue or real reason for the suit? Does the CRKT violate some type of patent that CS can't get through in court? I don't know, is why I'm asking.
 
stabman said:
Man, that takes things to a whole new lame level of douchiness. :thumbdn:

At first I thought you must be making a joke thread...I mean really, it just seems ludicrous.
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(to be sung to the rhythm and beat of "du hast" by Rammstein)

Douche, douche noz, douche nozz-le , lol............ I have more lyrics to this song but its NSFW. Seriously, I think cold steel has an issue with minding its own business. If we are gonna split hair this much Im sure we can ALL find something to sue CS over.
 
druid189 said:
However, I'm going to play Devil's Advocate for a moment...

"....sounds like someone's trying to eliminate some competition...."

"virtual" - http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/virtual?s=t

adjective
1. being such in power, force, or effect, though not actually or expressly such:
a virtual dependence on charity.
2. Optics.
noting an image formed by the apparent convergence of rays geometrically, but not actually, prolonged, as the image formed by a mirror (opposed to real ).
noting a focus of a system forming virtual images.
3. temporarily simulated or extended by computer software:
a virtual disk in RAM; virtual memory on a hard disk.

Definition #1 seems to apply.....so....if talking about "virtual fixed blade"......and apply it to the definition mentioned above...

"converting a folding blade into a virtual fixed blade" might simply mean "locking the blade makes it as non-folding as a fixed blade, though not actually or expressly."

Well, isn't that true to any locking blade by any company? What about rat tail tang fixed blades? The whole, "catastrophic failure if significant pressure is applied....."....We all know the same applies to that style knife and it is considered a fixed blade. I'd wager my 16 yr old daughter could easily break a rat tail designed fixed blade...I KNOW I have already.

And for the record, I wager that I could have no problem breaking a CS lock, touted as "the worlds strongest lock." Any mechanical lock is subject to failure...So should CS be sued in that case?
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That reasoning alone should throw this case out of court.

Yes, CS could probably be sued for SIMILAR things (as could many others). The thing is, I doubt any other knife company would do such a thing.

Lynn's acting like a kid (or is letting someone else act like one). I bet he'd make a cool uncle!
 
This is about as disgusting as Lynn Thompson's martial arts sword-fight "demonstration" at Blade. :rolleyes:
 
Just when they made up with Spyderco over the whole Black Talon fiasco. Now they turn around and throw sand in CRKT's eyes. For goodness sakes, hasn't Lynn (or whoever's idea this was) not "proven" enough already :rolleyes:? This industry is just absurd sometimes.
 
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