Cold Steel's new steels?

LOWER edge stability than AUS8??? Wow, that would suck lol. aus8 aint all that good to begin with. And wear resistance? For what? These are pocketknife blades, not railroad tracks, or axles.. Who would want that?
 
All the CPM knife steels (30V, 60V, 90V, 10V, etc.) have MUCH lower edge stability than AUS-8.

-Cliff
 
Who would want that?
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Me. I love the wear resistance of S90V. ZDP also. S90V seems to have enough edge stability for my purposes anyway, as does ZDP, and even S30V.

As far as SK-5, when heat treated well it's a great large knife steel. I've had my old SK-5 Japan made SOG tigershark for a while now. IMO, It's better than the AUS 6A version. If heat treated well in the PRC factory where the new Cold steel bowies are made it should compare fairly well to the old Camillus made "Carbon V " knives. I've read comparisons to 1080/1084 carbon steel. It seems about right for me. It'll all be up to QC as to how it does. The Trailmasters current street price of 85$ is high for a PRC made knife ( Beckers made at camillus were cheaper before Camillus went under), but it will have a market if made well. Joe
 
Hmmm... so CS has gone to communist China, is that right? If so, I'm disappointed. These days I try not to buy anything made in China.
 
Regarding SK-5, I haven't seen mentioned that the Cold Steel Bushman has always been made from that steel. Seems like almost everyone who's picked one of those up has really liked it. Granted, that's been a $20 knife, and one would have to wonder if it is still a good steel for a more expensive knife, but I think it's clear that the Bushman consistently has been a decent knife in the eyes of those who've given it a chance.

You have probably already seen the way it performed in the tests and videos on http://knifetests.com/ . Pretty brutal tests, and what can only be called an honest effort at testing the limits of the Bushman, and consequently, the SK-5 steel.
 
What are you cutting, how are you cutting, what is the edge angle and how blunt is the knife before you resharpen?

-Cliff
 
Buddiiee said:
Hmm. My spydero military retains an edge WAY more than my medium, plain edge clip point voyager could ever hope to. Why is that?
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I would hope that s30v is holding a better edge than VG1. I have a new CS AK-47 in AUS8 it is some of the best AUS8 i have ever used it holds a edge very well but still does not compare to S30V. for me its always been about edge retension but once i got some knives in S30V and D2 I realized how much time it took to sharpen :( so for every day cutting I use a CS super edge it gets the job done and is easy to sharpen at the end of the day
 
knifenut1013 said:
Cliff Stamp said:
All the CPM knife steels (30V, 60V, 90V, 10V, etc.) have MUCH lower edge stability than AUS-8.

-Cliff
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Buddiiee said:
Hmm. My spydero military retains an edge WAY more than my medium, plain edge clip point voyager could ever hope to. Why is that?
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I would hope that s30v is holding a better edge than VG1. I have a new CS AK-47 in AUS8 it is some of the best AUS8 i have ever used it holds a edge very well but still does not compare to S30V. for me its always been about edge retension but once i got some knives in S30V and D2 I realized how much time it took to sharpen :( so for every day cutting I use a CS super edge it gets the job done and is easy to sharpen at the end of the day
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Unless Buddiiee's blade is very new, it is AUS8.
 
The big problem with comparing STEELS based on KNIVES is often you are just going to end up favoring based on heat treatment. AUS-8 often gets left very soft and thus will compare poorly in many respects compared to a harder steel with more carbides. But if you leave it much harder it can outperform steels with more carbides in many respects. Benchmades 60+ hrc AUS-8A would be a good place to start.

-Cliff
 
well i bought my military from an online retailer while in baghdad around july of '04, and my voyager from the px on post, at around 1999. so im not sure if their s30v or aus8 has changed any, but i rely on both of them for standard issue cutting tasks. (paper, string, envelopes, mre's, 550 cord/ hundred mile an hour tape, bottled water packaging, small branches etc etc).

the militarys edge was very acute, while the cold steels was very wide and obtuse (typical cold steel) both were shaving razor sharp on day one, but for some reason, the spydercos not only help up longer, but was never ever a pain to bring back to working sharp, on this no brand, dual sided stone that i 'relocated for more efficient military use' from a norweigan army camp axe set, while stacking supplies in norway on a MNF deployment. (great find by the way lol)

my syperco was always a great pain to re-sharpen, never really became useful to me after that. I'm a mediochre sharpener at best, and my spyderco is a no brainer. a few swipes across this stone, and i'm back in action. once my cold steel dulls (which is soo quickly, it just resides in my 'collection' drawer now) It's workday is over. One that edge is gone, it's about like a butter knife. while i love my voyager, its blade material just isnt as useful as my spydercos. I cant seem to find a better pocket knife out there overall. Im not a huge spyderco fan, but its utility, ruggedness, ease of opening (even with gloves on) and ease of sharpening, make it undeniable. I just cant justify not carrying it. It works too well, even in frozen or very dusty/muddy conditions.

My cold steel is nice, but its just too hard to sharpen, and doesnt stay sharp long enough for me to carry anymore :(
 
ashtxsniper said:
I have tried the new krupp steel on the CS OSS knives and it is better than expected.
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Would you be willing to give some more info on that. I wanted one of the OSS knives but never got one before they stopped making them in carbon. If the krupp steel is OK on a knife like that I may have to get one. My FinBear has been great but I have not used it alot yet.
 
I have not really got around to fully testing it but it seems to take a really good edge and it holds it decent. I will update you as I test it further.
 
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