Collector Knives Warhorse

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bikerector

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I just caught this when looking for early on the clip otnat. Pretty much an improved trapper with 2 full-sized barlow blades (taller), a warn and a clip. I think this would be like a GEC Missouri Trapper in size and stature, maybe a little thicker. This was something I recommended after the Dom came out (can't imagine being the only one) as it's about the only way I could see improving that that knife for EDC. Taking a half-stop out would be nice for my tatstes but not nearly as a big a deal.

I'm pretty excited to see this getting made. Price will be "up there" but I think it would be completely worth it considering the quality of the barlows and the materials. Probably the perfect EDC, traditional, IMO, assuming it doesn't get crazy thick in pocket but I don't think it will, seeing how thick my DOM is. It may not fit in the coin pocket anymore but should fit into the RF pocket just fine.

Not sure how many I will get yet but I know I'm getting one to go with the rest of my natty micarta users. I think the only one I'm not considering is the CF as I just don't care for the material. Probably going to get a wood slabbed one too.

No details on expected delivery or run size.

I didn't see any other thread on this so I apologize if this is already making rounds and I missed it. I didn't see it when I searched and I got excited to see it there in pretty much everything I thought Mike should get out there for us to love and use. CHEERS!

photo credit to collectorknives.com
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Love my Shufflers, so I reserved an ebony Warhorse. Hope the action is just as good.
 
Sounds pretty cool I might want one depending on the covers but I’ve blown my Christmas knife budget on a Case Bose Premium stockman and having to resist buying that Jalomo trapper on the exchange. Plus a modern coming out I want. Too many knives not enough money :oops:
 
eisman said:
So basically a GEC #74 but thicker and less refined.
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I would be interested what you considered "refined" as my impression of the euro barlow is that it's very refined, using more modern materials and machining processes. I see the bolts, especially on the bolster, as looking more rough but the radiused liners and spring as more refined with a net cancelation. Under the hood, I really like what's going on with the eurobarlow and I think the blades are a wash as both are really well done.

That's my perspective at least, but I am legitimately curious as to what I'm overlooking, presumably because I'm focusing on the materials/modern aspect "too much."
 
bikerector said:
I would be interested what you considered "refined" as my impression of the euro barlow is that it's very refined, using more modern materials and machining processes. I see the bolts, especially on the bolster, as looking more rough but the radiused liners and spring as more refined with a net cancelation. Under the hood, I really like what's going on with the eurobarlow and I think the blades are a wash as both are really well done.

That's my perspective at least, but I am legitimately curious as to what I'm overlooking, presumably because I'm focusing on the materials/modern aspect "too much."
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I have to say I thought the same thing. I admit I don't know a ton about slipjoints but I thought the Euro Barlows were refined very well.
 
Refined; adjective - elegant and cultured in appearance, manner, or taste. synonyms: cultivated, cultured, polished, stylish, elegant; antonyms: coarse

As someone trained as a machinist I'm here to tell you that a matte finish is not as refined as one that is mirror polished. Likewise the use of bareheaded screws are less refined than are flush pins. As are slab scales in place of bolsters and fitted scales. They are a sign of easier (read less expensive) machine work and less precision. I'm not saying the Lionsteel knives are not good, but their level of finish does not appeal to me. And when I look at the prices, I cannot see any justification.

To me this is a more refined knife:
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eisman said:
Refined; adjective - elegant and cultured in appearance, manner, or taste. synonyms: cultivated, cultured, polished, stylish, elegant; antonyms: coarse

As someone trained as a machinist I'm here to tell you that a matte finish is not as refined as one that is mirror polished. Likewise the use of bareheaded screws are less refined than are flush pins. As are slab scales in place of bolsters and fitted scales. They are a sign of easier (read less expensive) machine work and less precision. I'm not saying the Lionsteel knives are not good, but their level of finish does not appeal to me. And when I look at the prices, I cannot see any justification.

To me this is a more refined knife:
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Fair enough, thank you for your opinion. I will agree that the northfields have a nicer level of refinement. I would not say the same about the TC level which is often more of what I think of with GEC and certainly the farm & field tier is lower refinement, but at a much lower cost. I think the lionsteel is on par with the TC's level of refinement and uses materials that are a little more appealing.

If GEC used more stainless I would be far more interested but as they've more or less sworn off even using 440c consistently there is a gap in the market for a nice traditional looking knife with a harder, stain resistant steel choice. Nothing wrong with 1095 but there is also something special about the likes of M390, IMO. If I could've gotten D2 blades like those from queen but with a overrall package of GEC standards (consistently), that would've been my entire collection. Lionsteel pretty much gets that for me and the exposed bolts don't bother me at all. I've had enough pins come loose that I prefer things I can just go at with a tool and adjust or work on. I'm sure I could learn to work with pins but I don't need to learn how to turn a screw, and I've had several pins come loose on different knives to where it isn't a plus for me (never happened on a GEC but were still reputable brands).

Your knife is very nice and something that would be fantastic to own but I'm no less excited about the warhorse and what it offers that yours does not. Hoorah for choices.

Cheers! (we need a beer emoji)
 
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eisman said:
Refined; adjective - elegant and cultured in appearance, manner, or taste. synonyms: cultivated, cultured, polished, stylish, elegant; antonyms: coarse

As someone trained as a machinist I'm here to tell you that a matte finish is not as refined as one that is mirror polished. Likewise the use of bareheaded screws are less refined than are flush pins. As are slab scales in place of bolsters and fitted scales. They are a sign of easier (read less expensive) machine work and less precision. I'm not saying the Lionsteel knives are not good, but their level of finish does not appeal to me. And when I look at the prices, I cannot see any justification.

To me this is a more refined knife:
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As a former machinist to a machinist there's more than one way to look at refinement.

Ease of pivot adjustment.
Smoother walk and talk than GEC.
4 times the edge holding.
No worries about the blade getting black and ugly or rusting.
No worries about springs and liners rusting or corroding.
Better materials.
Now that's the refinement I like.
 
I agree with the apples to oranges. I love my 74 improved trapper and my 2-48 improved trappers. This warhorse is a different animal though. And I can't wait to get it. Ordered it today. Thanks knifeswapper knifeswapper for making it happen. I hope I love it like I do my shuffler and dom combined. Got me a CF coming. None really appealed to me but I will prolly swap the ivory micarta slabs from my shuffler to it since it prolly won't see much use any more lol. Although, something to be said for black CF that won't show oil and grease.... Hmm.
 
Wow. I preordered this knife like a million years ago. At least it feels like a long, long time. Now my preorder is up......... and it isn’t even on my radar anymore. Just not my focus any longer.
 
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