Sorry BM, taking 2 women that has never been camping + I did not set this trip up ,It is a starting point to break in the wives + kids, I had fun, I know it was not way out into BFE but with kids and inexperianced women who have never been camping it was a great trip to break them in,if you get to rugged right off of the bat you have people who never been camping hate every minute of it and that is no fun + I like my wife & son to enjoy our family time and the next trip will be a little further out and so on ...

Family time is what the trip is about and it meant a lot to me, we as a whole had a blast and my wife & son want to plan another this time in TX and I'll go alittle further out, just like it turned out they had fun and they want to go on another... Bowie M , do you have a family? your smiley face embarrassment,sorry you did not understand the meaning of the trip,Family, I have be going with buddies into BFE but it is time to share my outdoor love with loved ones instead of them hearing about all the fun I had on previous trips into BFE,why should they stay home it is summer break/vacation for all and 14yrs of marriage and 1st. actual vaction we've enjoyed together outdoors,KISS "Keep It Simple Stupid" 1st outing & letting them slowly evolve and let them catch up to me and my experience of the outdoors. Just enjoying nature no matter the location

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