Combat boots!

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Hey! I am looking for a new pair of boots (Mine are getting pretty tired), and was looking into some combat boots. (Why? Because it has the word Combat in them, of course!)

I was looking into the Belleville 700ST, but am not picky. So i'm curious of two things;
1) Has anyone worn this boot, or have opinions on a better?

2) I don't like the fact of ordering boots from the internet, then getting slammed with shipping charges if they don't work out right. (Size, feel, etc...). Is there a place around Portland, OR (Hillsboro, beaverton, aloha.. .. Portland.. Gresham... Anywhere nearbye) to go and try boots on?

Andy & Bax, and Aloha Surplus, seem to carry a pretty cheap boot that i'm not completely interested in
 
Hey! I am looking for a new pair of boots (etc...) Is there a place around Portland, OR (Hillsboro, beaverton, aloha.. .. Portland.. Gresham... Anywhere nearbye) to go and try boots on?


You're kidding right? :eek:

Umm...Danner!!! ;) :thumbup:

You've got the factory store right in your backyard. People would kill for access to that.
 
Go to your local camping and hiking store and see what they have to offer. Turns out Lowa boots fit my feet better then Danner's or Merrell's.
 
...2) I don't like the fact of ordering boots from the internet, then getting slammed with shipping charges if they don't work out right. (Size, feel, etc...). Is there a place around Portland, OR (Hillsboro, beaverton, aloha.. .. Portland.. Gresham... Anywhere nearbye) to go and try boots on?...

Good idea.
should never buy boots without trying both of them on.

I've always liked Danner boots myself.
 
Another vote for Danner.

Rather spendy compared to the competition, but IMHO, well worth the money -- if not for comfort and quality, then for the fact that they last longer.

-j
 
I have always had good luck with Bates boots, I have tried Belleville Boots while in the Air-force and didn't like them too much. But that was ten years ago, it looks like they may be better now. Not to mention they are made 1/2 mile from me.
 
Bates are great. I had a pair of Altamas but they were just alright, not really the best by any means. Oakley makes a pretty neat "assualt boot" that's gotten excellent reviews but they might be a little radical for some.
 
Cove boot company makes the real thing i own them and like them a lot.
 
I exclusively wear Danner when I'm on duty now. The best boots I have ever worn. I've got a pair that is going on 14 years now. I've had it resoled a couple of times, but it is still going strong. And very comfortable now. I keep telling myself I'm going to send them in for a rebuild, but I don't want to be without them.
 
Matterhorn boots all the way. The most rugged boots I've ever owned. I wear them every day and have put them through hell. I have the 10" style with safety toes. They were comfortable out of the box. I have had mine for about 3 1/2 years and will probably be buying another pair and getting these ones resoled.
 
My work boots are a pair of RedWings my folks bought me in highschool (mid 80's). Had them resoled TWICE with Vibram and they're still holding up pretty well, The leather's gotten thin in places, so they're about ready to retire...

I was given a pair of Danners last year by a guy who couldn't stand them, but then he got his feet pretty messed up in the service and can't wear much of anything anymore. These are my new favorites for woods-work and hunting. Didn't take long to mold to my feet and they're extremely forgiving!

Different boots fit everyone's feet differently. You've got to go try on BOTH boots and walk around the store for a while to be as close to sure as you can before laying down the $$$. But, once you've found the perfect fit, you won't regret it!

J-
 
I have went through many pairs of boots along with my nephews I tried DANNER years ago and will not wear anything else.
 
The phrase "combat boot" has more than one meaning, and several different boots can serve in this capacity, depending on the need of the wearer.

First and foremost, though, the boot has to fit.

In the late 1930's, as the US military saw WWII approaching, they realized they would need to put boots on millions of men.
The US Military's researchers devoted six months to the study of the human foot amongst the widely varied American population.
From this study they came up with the "Munson Last," a master foot shape that would fit the largest numbers of people, comfortably.
Further, the military provided a broad range of sizes and widths within the guidelines of the Munson Last.

Google Munson last combat boot and mostly Cove and HH boots will surface.
I think HH exists as a subsidiary of Cove, or the other way around.
In any event, Cove makes a faithfully accurate modern version of the Corcoran Jump Boot.
HH sells what seems the same boot without calling it a Corcoran, for less than Cove sells the Corcoran.

http://www.anchortex.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?preadd=action&key=C200348

Same boot called a Corcoran and made by Cove:

http://www.anchortex.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?preadd=action&key=C200141

I'd go with the real thing, just in case HH has cut corners.

Cove/HH also makes a Tanker's boot, based on the Munson Last, but having leather straps and buckles instead of laces, and no toe cap.
It has merit.

http://www.shoeshackonline.com/site/623303/product/5407

The Corcoran boot has remarkably flexible and light leather (glove leather) on the instep, sealed full-tongue (I can't remember the correct term for this type of tongue, but it means waterproof), and ankle/shin shaft.
The toe and the heel have double layers of very tough, molded leather.
The molded toe provides a large (wiggle your toes) comfortable and cool toe box (cool in summer and warm in winter) that doesn't crush, and pops back if it does.
The molded heel, with the help of the full lacing and soft leather of the instep and ankle/shin shaft, completely controls the foot without creating a feeling of claustrophobia or tightness.
The Munson Last, soft/supple leather, plus the big molded toe box and molded heel makes the most comfortable fitting boot most people have ever experienced.

They have put this boot on top of a modern Vibram sole made exclusively for Cove.
This sole resists oil (more important than most people realize), does not mark floors, wears well and yet positively grips a wide variety of natural and man-made surfaces.
I consider this specific sole the best all-around sole I have experienced.

Designed originally as a paratrooper's boot, this boot supports a high level of athleticism, walking and running.
It weighs less than any other boot of this type I have worn, by a wide margin.
This boot has a perfect balance of lightness, flexibility and support.
Because of its lightness, it will not hold up to years of hard field use, but it will take severe short term abuse and will also serve decades as a uniform boot.

Because my company pays for my boots, I buy a new pair of Corcorans every year.
They take one day to become glove comfortable, and more comfortable than any boot of my experience.

In contrast, the Marine Corps of the 1960's issued a much heavier boot, with a non-lugged Vibram sole.
The Marine Corps intended these boots for extended, heavy field use, with minimal service and repair.
They worked great, but weighed considerably more than Corcorans.
A three-mile run in Corcorans felt like a stroll in the park compared to the same three-mile run in the much heavier Marine Corps field combat boot.

For total indestructibility, fit and quality, no boot on earth compares to White's Smoke Jumper.

http://www.whitesoutdoor.com/store/product.php?category=Boots&id=701

These boots fit exquisitely, weigh too much, and cost more than anyone should ever pay for a boot.
Please note that the White's site lists the 10" Smokejumper for $405.
I have owned a pair of Whites, and can confirm their value.
They weigh three times as much as Corcorans, but don't feel like it on the foot because of their design and fit.
This boot will see its wearer through anything, anywhere, anytime.

Still, I find Corcorans much more practical, more cost-effective, and more comfortable for non-combat wear around the office.
In an emergency they'll get you there and back, comfortably and athletically.

The folks who designed the Corcoran really, really, really thought it out, and it stands as one of those unique human artifacts that has attained perfection for its intended purpose (jumping into the unknown and moving fast once on the ground).
And Cove has remained totally faithful to the design, except for the improved sole.

Munson Last.

Wear Corcorans once and you'll wear them forever.

Oh, and with a little polish and brushing they look sharp!
 
Danners are great, they have put me through some pretty tough times.Hurricanes Ivan,Dennis,Katrina, SAR Task Force Ops around America (USART). My personal favorite is Danner and the MOST comfy are the Danner Acadia boots, the Elites are Sweeeeet.

Yet, I gotta tell you all that ALL boots are wannabe posers against a Pair of White's SmokeJumpers or Nicks HotShot boots. Huh? what are those, you ask? Google those two boot companies and behold Boot perfection. These are Purist, life on the line real man boots(think Custom 1911 Government Model of Boots). Ask any USFS/CDF Wildland firefighter,logger,forester,Ranger etc.
 
Ken,

I recently picked up a pair of the Corcoran zippered Jump boots. They are really great, after a period of break-in. Recently wore them 18 hours a day for a week of hopping around the country.

The only problem I had was that the rear stitch seam was so intrusive I got blisters all on the backs of my heels. A bit of duct tape fixed that...

-j
 
Bates suck, they fall apart.

Danners are great, but over priced.

Belleville are good and moderately priced.

If you have the funding to get Danners, get Danners. But if you work for a living then get Belleville's.
 
I like the newer danners they just came out with. I can't remember the name, but they're comfortable bust not nearly as durable (made overseas). The acadias are bout as tough of a boot as you'll find out there. Still there are different qualities in a boot and it's good to identify what you want out of them. I have a pair of oakley boots and they're just like putting on a pair of running shoes. Just don't expect to put them through 20+ miles of walking on a daily basis over rocky terrain or they will start to fall apart in a few months. If I were to choose one pair of boots though to wear day in and day out for all purposes it would probably be the danner acadia. It's not the best boot to run in though. Bellevilles, altamas, blackhawk, oakley, will have all fallen apart and the danners will still be held together. The only exception in that group I've seen are the USA made altama jungle boots
 
Bates suck, they fall apart.

Danners are great, but over priced.

Belleville are good and moderately priced.

If you have the funding to get Danners, get Danners. But if you work for a living then get Belleville's.

I have to disagree with you about Bates. A very good friend of mine wore the same pair of Bates all through BUD/S. Running in the sand, repeated salt-water immersion, and the daily grind didn't destroy them. Only real wear was in the sole's tread.
 
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