Combat/Camp/Survival knives, the difference?

Survival is an accidental stay in the wild
Which means that a survival knife is the one you have with you when you aren't planning to stay in the wilderness. It seems that by this definition a survival knife would necessarily also be known as your EDC.
 
Forgot to mention IMO the difference combat and fighting, combat would be a knife used by a soldier for utility purposes and fighting mainly for self defense. A fighting knife would need a double guard to protect the hand in the event of a stabbing situation.
Scott
 
"EDC"

EDC???.....no wait, I can get this......


edc...
edc....
edc....Ummmm....Emergency.......Dependable......Cutter?
 
It really comes down to semantics. The whole "tactical" thing is an example. Tactical has come to mean flat black and intimdating looking. But really it is about how a kife gets deployed. Combat knife, fighting knife, camp knife and survival knife are all generalizations that we are trying to get specific about. Knives do a lot of double duty. You know what knife is the ultimate survival knife? A machete. It used by indigenous peoples wordwide as their sole tool in many cases. There are variants which they call parangs, goloks and such so that even then it becomes a situation akin to taxonomy. What is a bowie knife? Try getting a bunch of people to aggree on that even. Take the kukri, it is a proven camp, combat and survival knife. Would you call it a fighter? Yet it is what I would choose to fight with. I am not sure what we are all getting at here.
 
Joe Talmadge strikes again with an eloquent and accurate answer. Good'n, Joe
 
ras said:
DaQo'tah Forge,
What's your point?

To learn.

I already know what I think, now I seek to learn what you think.

The terms "Camp-Survival-Combat-Tactical-Bowie-hunting-User" and many many others get used around here all the time. I believe that when each of us hears such words used to talk about a knife we never need to stop and ask the meanings. I think this is because once we see a knife said to be a "Tactical" for the first time , we begin to build in our minds an image of what a perfect "Tactial" looks like.

But when we see a knife that might be called "Tactical" and does not appear to us to fit under that term, then we know, (Even without a clear understranding of why) that something is wrong...

This unspoken image of what each knife is , that we carry in our minds...is interesting to drag out and look at from time to time....

Thats how we learn more of a correct understanding of the true up-to-date meaning of the terms we use around this forum every day.

.......oh....and I also thought it would be fun.
 
DaQo'tah Forge said:
The terms "Camp-Survival-Combat-Tactical-Bowie-hunting-User" and many many others get used around here all the time. I believe that when each of us hears such words used to talk about a knife we never need to stop and ask the meanings. I think this is because once we see a knife said to be a "Tactical" for the first time , we begin to build in our minds an image of what a perfect "Tactial" looks like.

Well, that's how language works, right? It helps us understand the world by breaking it up into categories. The more complex the category, the fuzzier its conceptual boundaries, and the more overlap with other categories. It's no different with knives than with anything else. If this area interests you, Wittgenstein's classic discussion of the term "game" is a great starting point. One big correction though: I don't think we begin to "build in our minds an image of what the perfect 'Tactical' looks like", so much as we build and refine the category conceptually.

But when we see a knife that might be called "Tactical" and does not appear to us to fit under that term, then we know, (Even without a clear understranding of why) that something is wrong...

Well, it's not that something is wrong, but we see a knife that meets some part of the category (e.g., robust for hard use) but not another part (e.g., not black), and now the fuzziness of the conceptual boundaries gets addressed a bit more.


Joe
 
Razorback - Knives
....When dad was alive and we kids were younger, he would from time to time tell us a few of his old war stories....

Dad was just 17 years old when he went into the army. He ended up in, I guess you would call it a rear unit, that would go into the towns after they might have been by-passed by the American fighting units. Dad's unit would look for any Germans or trouble that got left behind.

Dad, being really still just a farm kid from northern North Dakota, was enjoying his mostly safe jobs of walking in to stores and houses and looking around at their stuff. One day my dad was sent over to look at a building, because there was a sign in the building that he buddies understood to be an Inn. So he went over to see if anything cool was left.

He walked in and was sneaking around looking for stuff when he suddenly was supprised by a German army guy who was hiding and apparently was totally supprised by dad too.

The German ran out the front door left open by dad.
Now at the time my dad dint have his gun ready, so reaching for his combat knife, (another thing he had found someplace and took with him) he tossed it at the German with all of his might. Yes, it would have been a great end of the story if that tossed knife had landed in the skull of the German...but it didn't.

For as the German had ran out the front door, he must have grabbed the door on the way by and slammed it shut behind him. The tossed knife ended up stuck right in the door.

Later when all his buddies were laughing about the story my dad kept telling, one of the guys reached up to pull the stuck knife from the door. It snapped clean off flush with door.

For the rest of his life, whenever my dad told this story he always wondered about both that knife, and that door.

My dad always wanted to return one day to that town and see if the point of his knife was still stuck in the door.....
 
ras
....while I see what you are thinking of with saying that a survival knife is also an EDC....

To me my EDC is different,,,,My survival knife is under the seat of my truck,,,just incase,,,,

and my EDC is just a little tiny pocket knife,,,very light,cheap,,,no worry if lost,,,,used to just cut paper, perhaps open a box now and then.

How about you?
 
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