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Combat daggers recommendation
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Not all 16yo are kids, but some 60yo are
I wasn't a kid at 16 and I was dangerous...behind the wheel of a car The Terzuola CQB by Meyerco is a good choice and a proven design. The Gerber Mark is another to consider.
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Not all 16yo are kids, but some 60yo are
Right.
I'll just leave this hilarious bio here for you to peruse:
image removed because the young lad wisely changed his bio*
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I think you will find this specific subforum of more interest given your former listed interests. It is called Practical Tactical: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php/680-Practical-Tactical . I think you'll have more fun over there.
If no one cares about your profile then why change it? It was a wise choice though....
If Vsnot is Austrayan, "mate", he should read this
http://www.australianbladeforums.com/vb4/forum62/
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Before you go, thought I'd might throw this up when you get a little older:
BLACKHAWK! UK-SFK
BLACKHAWK! UK-SFK
It's as if a sword couldn't be "lively"...
I don't know where the "lively feel" thing got started... An eight ounce object does not have that much authority over a 2800 ounces wielder... Yet you keep hearing it over and over, most pontificating that it should "balance at the guard", as if that achieved some mystical universal equilibrium, even if the knife is obviously meant for chopping!...
Balance affects throwing and chopping. End of story. You aren't going to chop with a dagger, so that leaves throwing.
The reasons for getting a dagger over a conventional knife are few, and the only convincing one I ever came up with is that with blade stock and blade length being equal, the dagger will easily be 20-30% lighter, which is a lot: An 8" blade can easily weight 7-8 ounces, instead of 10 ounces, less than one ounce per inch of blade length, something which a similar size and stout single edge will be very hard pressed to even approach.
Now if balance in daggers doesn't matter, why does weight matter? Because for shoulder carry every ounce counts, and daggers lend themselves to shoulder harness carry. It is a big difference after a whole day.
That is why whenever I see a dagger with heavy metal fixtures all over the handle, I know the designer doesn't understand the only reason to choose that blade style to begin with... A 1/4" blade stock is out too, for the same reasons. Personally I think a modern dagger should ideally have a Kraton-only handle, the best example I know of being the Junglee Waterloo. The SOG Desert Dagger is close enough, and its hammer pommel is a good idea for military types, less so for civilian owners.
Another advantage, if not unique to daggers, is that belly-less edges have more tip-hooking action, and a more constant edge angle all the way to the tip, so that is good for the "social purpose" intent, especially since single edge "fighting knives" often make the serious mistake of putting a lot belly in there ...
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Sorry. Wrong.
It got started in reality. How a knife is balanced affects all knives. A proper skinner is balanced different that a chopper, same with a fighter. How they are balanced is different.
Sorry you think that's "pontificating." It's not. It's fact. Deal.
Maybe its time for you to pick up something different than a Rambo knife and see how it feels.
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Why not go full custom that way you can pick exactly what you want? (the dags left and right of center)
Or, for just messing around, buy an old bayonet; they're dirt cheap and fun too. The center one and far right G3 bayo cost me $40.00 I believe.
:thumbup: Low cost to buy and it you break it so what...
Or, for just messing around, buy an old bayonet; they're dirt cheap and fun too. The center one and far right G3 bayo cost me $40.00 I believe.
:thumbup: Low cost to buy and it you break it so what...
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Why not go full custom that way you can pick exactly what you want? (the dags left and right of center)
Or, for just messing around, buy an old bayonet; they're dirt cheap and fun too. The center one and far right G3 bayo cost me $40.00 I believe.
Yeah, I'll second the bayonet idea for on the cheap foolin' 'round . Most are not too well balanced as they come but usually at least very sturdy !
And ,hey I was 16 once a long time ago and wanted to be "dangerous" too . Everybody should maybe give the youngster a break?
Why not go full custom that way you can pick exactly what you want? (the dags left and right of center)
I happen to think that daggers are the one area where factory blades have an absolute superiority over all customs, and the examples you provide are an excellent demonstration:
-Custom daggers will typically have much heavier handle materials, so the dagger's 20-30% weight advantage for a given length will be out the window. This is because custom makers cannot make the expensive molds needed to have proper plastic or Kraton moulded handles...
-Custom daggers will typically have much more slippery grips, because the overwhelming majority of custom makers cannot provide the intensive checkering that provides the best grip with wet and slippery hands: All factory daggers of good quality will have extensive checkering provided within the plastic/Kraton moulds themselves, so that is a second major advantage.
The two Custom daggers you provided in the picture are an excellent demonstration of a custom dagger's almost inevitable inferiority for practical use or carry: The handle materials they use are heavier, and they are both mostly devoid of any real surface texture to prevent slipping. The one area a custom dagger may score is edge thinness, as much of the Kraton/plastic-handled Seki-made daggers are horrendously thick-edged, including those made by Al Mar...: This however does not apply to Gerber Guardian IIs and some Gerber Mark IIs as well: These are both handicapped by heavier aluminium handles, but the Guardian II is of a much slimmer and lighter handle design (rough textured), so at 8 ounces it is still around 20% lighter than even a very sparse single edge knife of the same size (if the single edge has the usual wider blade).
Gaston
