Combat hawk

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VolundoftheForge

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I know I've made a few threads on this already, but I'm keeping this one broad spectrum. No necessary points, other than definitely under 250, and preferably much less. :P
 
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Any one of these would be great. They're right at $250
 
Here's four of the most popular and cost effective choices: the United Cutlery M48 commando hawk, the Cold Steel Trench Hawk, SOG Fasthawk, Benchmade model 172 tactical hawk and then there's the more stylish;) Rogers' Rangers Hawk from Ft. Turner, or the Warhawk from 2Hawks. The first 3 cost around $40-50, the Benchmade is around $200-240 the Ft. Turner is $119, and the Warhawk is about $200. I hope this helps a bit. So what are your projected uses for the hawk? Are you deploying or do you just like this style of hawk?
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Here's a few pics of the stuff 2Hawks makes. First is the Warhawk, then the Voyager, and the Woodsman which range from $200-about $120
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I like collecting functional weaponry as well as more practical items. :P I figured it'd be something cool to have. I like finding a nice weapon and working out a system with said weapon and figuring out how it functions in warfare.
 
VolundoftheForge said:
I like collecting functional weaponry as well as more practical items. :P I figured it'd be something cool to have. I like finding a nice weapon and working out a system with said weapon and figuring out how it functions in warfare.[/QUOTE / Never mind
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leebrewer said:
I hope you dont plan on carrying one to school.
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Not quite that stupid, thanks. The way I said that probably made me sound a lot worse than I am. I like learning the art-form and technique behind the tool/weapon in question. Figure out how the geometry of it works with certain tasks as opposed to others. I like getting the whole understanding of the tool.
 
VolundoftheForge said:
LEGION 12 said:
Yeah sorry about that. I'd like to think I'm not that crazy, if anything a little naive at times.
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No problem if i was gonna start over just me with the cash you have you could get a couple of cold steel hawks that you like mod them anyway youd like theres hundreds of ways right in this forum . Then you could afford all the gear you need some good sharpening gear that will last you a long time a good file some dmt stones a strop . All the supplies you need to mod your hawks sandpaper stain some leather supplies to make your sheaths and youd be way ahead of most guys . Then you could always move up to a custom by any of the great makers here and you would have all the gear your gonna need anyway to keep your hawks sharp and happy . Thats the way i wish i would have got started Rich.
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Yeah, I would do things different, if I could start knowing what I know. Yet, experiencing certain hawks first hand has had more of an impact than just reading about them. I had to buy a few that I wouldn't buy again, just to figure out why I wouldn't buy them again. I always get into something on the cheapest level and work my way up, spending more as I get more interested.

LEGION 12 makes a good point. If you could send yourself a message from the future, you could get the hawk that you would be happiest with. Maybe getting your hands on as many different hawks as possible would help you decide what exactly you want. Maybe one of us live near you, maybe go to a blade show?

If you are serious about learning to fight with tomahawks you're going to need a few things. Besides classes and sparring partners, you may want a plastic training hawk. One of those can be a very cheap way to find out how well it can hook, and you'll get a feel for the reach. I have two, one is the Winkler-Sayoc, and the other is a 18" long traditional style. I have learned many things just from owning those two, especially about their reach. The Winkler is great for CQC, it's compact size is great for once you've already closed the distance. In an open area, the longer haft just feels more powerful, and you don't have to get so close.
Like other weapons, the size and weight are important, and have their pros and cons depending on the situation.
 
Exatlly when i started out the only way to learn was trial and error you could read some and if you were lucky there was someone to teach you i didnt have that and there was no internet . So i bought a lot of stuff that wasnt for me wish i had all the money i spent just on sharpening systems would have bought the best bench stones i could get and still probably have them . Now were very lucky we have this place to at least try and point us in the right direction . I have gotten more knowledge here then i got in 43 years good and bad.
 
If you're hoping to learn about how to use a hawk in a fight you'll learn a lot more with a set plywood or stiff rubber cut outs for you and a friend or three than you ever will from playing with a live blade. Professional instruction, while hard to come by in this specific area of combatives, would be helpful also.

Don't become this kid:

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From the experience I have with the 2 hawks I own now, i'd advise against the benchmade 172 as a fighting hawk. That's not to knock it though. This is one tank of a tool and is probably one of the sexier hawks sub $250. However once you hold it in hand you can definitely tell it's primarily for breaching. It weighs a ton so you lose a lot of the maneuverability you should be getting from shorter weapons. Also the edge is pretty much blunt. Be sure to take note of the weight and head design of each hawk and see if it lines up with your intended purpose for it. For a sub 250 specifically combat specific hawk, i'd personally take an Emerson cqc-t as it only weighs a pound and comes shaving sharp. For an all round beater/fighter the atc Lagana isn't too bad either. A lot of forum members here too make some great hawks too if you ask around. I was looking at some threads by jk knives and Kentucky and they know how to make some damn sexy looking hawks of you're willing to wait for a handmade piece for a reasonable price.
 
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