Compare big folders Harsey T3 and Rukus

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bobandnancy

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Searching for a large folder for survival, field chores, and defense. Have come down to the BM Rukus or Harsey T3 Tactical. Not for EDC but for wilderness use or difficult situations. I have my own opinions. But what do you think? Any other knives you find better?
 
I like the T series LW knives, however I haven't owned one. There has been a lot of talk on here about LW quality control, and some have said they have problems with the liner locks not holding.... The BM has the axis lock which is very strong and also durable. For hard use I would go with the BM.
I looked at a Ruckus the other day and it is actually very comfortable.
 
For wilderness situation as an edc in the woods don't overlook the CQC11. It is definetly a big knife with a great design. Slight recurve, dropped point and to me it is a good overall general design. Kind of like the old style butcher knife blades of the past only in a folder. Just food for thought. keepem sharp
 
Thanks for the replies. Seems like not many own the Harsey T3. When I held it I was impressed but the liner lock looked flimsy and worried me, especially on such a big blade. Havent heard many complaints about the Rukus and many seem to own them. Just wanted to know why there are not alot of Harsey fans out there. Will look at the CQC11. Am alittle worried about Emerson as I bought a Commander and thought I would love it but very surprised to find it was a chisel grind. Not a big fan. Ok for self defense but not for utility cutting both ways especially right handed. Usually I'd save up and buy both the Rukus and T3 (we all know how that is)but both are expensive for me and not what I'd usually carry everyday,only need one. Well maybe then again....
 
ZT 301 or 302
Strider of your choice
CR Sebenza
Emerson CQC12
Spyderco Manix

The designated-hitters of the production folder world.

I can vouch for the Sebenza and the Manix because I own them. I have a ZT 302 inbound. I lust for a Strider and a CQC12.

Enjoy your search.

Having said the above, I carry the Spyderco Endura 4 with the Emerson wave. Some call it big. It is just right for me. Love it.

oregon
 
do you have a particular reason for carrying a folder instead a fixed blade for outdoors?
 
Hi,

I own the LW T2 ranger. It is a bit smaller then the full sized ranger. Here are my thoughts.

1) The cpm-s30v blade is very nicely designed and sharp. This is one good blade.
2) Handle ergo is nice, fits in your hand well and has finger groves.
3) opens very like butter. It has a PB-washer.
4) Now the bad - it fails the spine wack test about 70% of the time.
5) there is a big space between the blade and the liner when closed. sometimes change pennys and nickles get stuck in between the blade and the liner and it will not open. Not good for SD.

This LW knife replaces an Al Mar sere 2000 which I lost. The sere 2000 was a much better knife IMO. Better fit and finish and much stronger. I ran the sere 2000 over with my truck twice and both times it was undamaged and open just fine. The first time I droped the LW it jamed and would not open. I do not think the LW would survive being run over by a truck. The sere 2000 was a lock liner but had the thickest stainless steel liners I have ever seen. That was one strong knife.
 
I haven't had the LW knife, but have read a lot about the hit and miss QC on them. The Rukus, on the other hand, is in my edc rotation and is a very nice and strong as there is production folder on the market. The only negatives about it center around the omega springs perhaps breaking and the fact that you would have to send it back to BM to get repaired as BM will not send out springs for the end user to repair the knife. There have been some reports of breaking springs, but I imagine that they only represent a tiny fraction of all the Axis lock knives in circulation. One of the best things about the Rukus is it's simple blade. The blade is flat ground, made os S30V, and is a drop point in style. Makes an excellent general utility blade, although I would love to see the Mini Rukus blade and it's top grind on the regular sized Rukus. Bottom line?, I'd say go for the Rukus!:thumbup:
 
Have you given any thought on a strider ar/gb? I just bought one for a folding outdoor knife for the places carrying medium-large fixed blade might scare some sheeple. I wanted tough knife with good cutting ability. I saw this: http://www.badlandsforums.com/faq/ExtremaStrider.shtml The choice became a lot more clear. I hope this helps. IIRC, 1 bar is equal to a little over 14psi.
 
From bob: have been gone for three weeks. Thanks for the replies. First just bought an Endura for my brother-in-law for Christmas and was impressed. Of course I need one. Second I like folders as I have found the more I care one the larger the one I seem to like for EDC. Started with 2-3 inch blades and then a Para, now I carry the Millie. Cant carry a fixed blade in my work very easily. I know I said "not for EDC" but I'd like the option. Friend just got a Mani. A year ago I would not have wanted the weight, but somehow feels fine now. Gotta get one. Will take a look at the Stider and will get the kids to get me the Rukus for Christmas. Crap just read my reply and all I can say is "this is addicting, I think I need help, or a better job." Thanks
 
From bob: I agree about the Sere 2000. Definitely the heaviest liner lock I've seen. Read one review where the tip broke easily and the whole knife tore apart with radical twisting. Maybe was before Al Mar improved it. Actually compared the T3 with a Sere 2000 and wanted the larger T3 but didnt like the fact that the 2000 had a much larger liner lock.
 
from bob: have wondered about the skirmish big blade, fairly light. Never held one. How do you like the titanium handle v G10 or Micarta?
 
IMHO, your best bet is something with an axis lock. If you're going to baton the blade through wood, the axis lock is the strongest and least likely to be damaged.

The Benchmade 710 is a very good knife.
 
Back on 11/10 I voted for the Rukus (I have two of them:D), but after rereading and thinking about it I decided that maybe the big Harsey would be the better bet IF it is only going to be used while camping. The Rukus just makes a perfect every day carry knife (I have one in my pocket as I type this), Hence you would end up carrying it all the time! I don't think that the SERE liners are thicker than what is on the LW T3, as the SERE liners are anywhere from .060 to .065 inches thick. The LW has thicker liners than that.
 
I EDC a T-2 ranger, and have taken it to the woods many times. It has never come up short. The titanium frame seems strong enough to handle just about anything I could throw at it. I can't say I've ever batoned with it(that's what the hatchet's for), but the s30v takes and holds a great edge.

It's built fires, dressed game, and done kp duty all in the same day, with my help, of course. The open build is great when it comes to washing the chunks out. and it's a great looking knife.

I can't say enough good stuff about this knife. The finish isn't %100, but it's still gorgeous. The fit, however is one of the best I've ever handled. Silky-smooth action and tight lock-up.

A Benchmade is next on my list, and I can't friggin' wait!
 
I currently have a T2, not the T3 & I had the T1. Neither failed the spine-whack test. The T2s liner is thicker than the T1, plus I believe it's Ti (I think the T3's liner is Ti, too).

But I have to admit, the B/M axis lock is stronger with less chance of failing. The 710 is nice, but the blade is not as deep as the T2. The Ruckus blade is probably not as deep as the T3, I'd imagine, but the lock is better.
 
I have a T1 and the Rukus. I got them both at the same time from New Graham. Well the T1 could be closed with just some finger pressure on the spine! After modifying it some it works OK but I will never fully trust it. I love the Rukus- it feels lighter than it should in pocket and IWB. My opinions only.
 
I own both a T3 and the smaller T2 and I love the pair of them. I know that some folks have expressed concerns about the QC on Lone Wolfs, but from my own wxperiences with these knives they have nothing to worry about. Both knives lock up solid (and I mean "solid"), and do all I ask of them.
The T3 is a real "mans knife" and not for the feint of heart. I have much larger than average hands and the T3 fills my fist completely.
With the edge re-profiled into a neat convexed secondary bevel the S30V blades simply cut, and cut, and cut.
I'm not in a position to consider either knife to be cheap, but I cannot regret one penny of what they cost me to buy.
 
I have a large Harsey Tactical, A BM Skirmish, and both the large and mini Rukus. I do not see what the problem is with the Harsey, it does have the LAWKS safety, which when engaged will not let the liner lock dis-engage.
I usually carry at least two blades every day. The Harsey Tactical (4.5 blade) is one of my favorites and is in the rotation weekly. I carry it clipped to my right pocket or in its specially designed sheath. I d not see how it can fail if you have the safety engaged.
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