Comparison of how steels move under the hammer?

weo

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Hello all. As the subject says, I'm looking for any info on how different steels move when making damascus to help plan layer count for patterns.
For example, my last 3 knives I've tried a 3 layer san mai pattern using 3 pieces of.070 15N20 (for .210 outside layers) and .125 middle layer of 1095. It seems like I got a more even pattern on the blades I did using only 2 layers of 15N20, with more dark blade compared to the nickle steel spine. This makes me think that the 1095 moves easier than the 15N20 making for a thinner core and less dark steel when using the thicker 15N20.
Thanks
 
From my experience, from easiest to hardest to forge; simple carbon steels like 10XX and W1, W2, low alloy steels like 5160 and 52100, high alloy steels like martensitic stainless and tool steel, D2, 3V, A2, M2 etc.

Hoss
 
Also, another big issue with forging high alloy/stainless steels is they harden every time they cool off.

Once I was trying to forge out a D-2 bar to get a wider blade and I swear I heard it laughing at me ... well, maybe it was me laughing, but there wasn't anything funny about it.
When I went to grind the profile and basic bevels in before HT it was hard as woodpecker lips. Took a twelve hour slow aneal to make it grindable.
 
Ha! I thought I was the only one that used that saying!! Hard as woodpecker lips! Snicker!
 
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