Competition knives?

I'm interested by that aswell. I saw one at Blade, and the edge geometry is kind of somewhere in between a regular production bowie and what I typically think of as a competition knife. Nothing fancy, but seemed well put together and like it would be a good worker. Could always thin it down a bit, too, experimentally. If it ended up becoming fragile-edged, it's easy to flatten again and reset it to a steeper angle.
 
t1mpani said:
Don't have a Dog father I'm afraid, but I how about a Battle Rat or FBM? You do just mean adjusting the edge angle, right--not the whole grind? :D
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If you want to do a meaningfull test with a Battlerat, FBM and include a Dogfather, I would be more than happy to send you one to test alongside the others. You can grind the edge anyway you want, I don't care and I'll make it a new one so there is no other issues. :thumbup:
 
Hmmmm....tempting--although I always hate being in charge of someone else's property. Tell you what, once I get home I'll send you a line and we'll discuss it.

Warren
 
I would love to see that test. There will be a Scrapyard Dogfather LE being released any day now(hopefully) and I think the DF or Battlerat would be a better comp knife due to the res C handle compared to the FBM. A diff tempered Battlerat could be the best because the
52100 steel has better edge retention but the S7 DF does have an extra inch of length and could possibly handle the very thinn edge better. I guess an argument could be made for either so whatever you have on hand would be fine. A Ranger would also work.

I would even consider purchasing the knife that Cobalt sends for the test so he is not out anything and T1mpani does not have to feel guilty?

If we could find a ringer to use the Scrapper comp knife in a real competition we could have a fair test against the best of the breed.
 
Honestly I don't think the DF will be equal to incredible customs like this one but I do think they are the closest people who can't afford something like this can get.

I find the shape and balance of this knife so beautiful as to almost bring tears.

If the DFLE follows the pattern of the YardKeeper LE it will hopefully have a full hieght flat grind and will be ideal for our purpose.
 
Just got the Browning Competition knife from AGRussell in the mail. First impression is that it is a lot of knife for the price.

Balances at about the same point as shown by Unsub (at the plunge line). Grinds look good. There are some "features" in the shape of the Micarta scales that I wonder if they were intentional, but it still feels very good in the hand. Nice convex edge with good sharpness, but not scary (or even close). Fit and finish is not bad for so much knife at this price- tang/scales are flush, corners/edges are clean, if a little sharp.

Regarding the DF, I think it's a bit too blade heavy, at least compared to this knife. Even the Battle Rat (which is quicker than the DF) is more blade heavy than this knife. As far as my Busse family knives, the closest in balance is the FSH, but that is shorter and I think heavier.

If I can save enough by the time my name comes up on Burt Foster's waiting list, I might ask him to make a knife like this, so I thought for $140 it was worth trying out. Seems like a good value so far!
 
Quick & dirty way is to just do a "waggle test" as described in this article: Sword Impacts & Motions. But I think that will be kinda difficult in this case since the blade is much shorter than a sword, and it looks like the dynamic balance point may actually be beyond the tip somewhere, making it rather difficult to tell. So, I think the better option would be to set up a pendulum (should only take 5 or 10 minutes).

You're trying to find the pivot point that corresponds to the one at the guard (or just in front of your forefinger when you grip it). This can tell us a great deal about the knife's dynamic properties in handling and impact.

Some time ago I showed how to set up a pendulum to check this, in this thread. Since my khukri doesn't have a crossguard either, I taped a bent piece of wire to the handle at the proper location so it would have something to swing on. The pendulum is just a lead weight on a string.

Here's a pic to give you an idea:
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And a video of it in action, which is much better than words.

http://media.putfile.com/Pendulum-1
 
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