Concrete block chop !!

The purpose of the test isn't to show how you can defend yourself from concrete blocks any more so than chopping up a 2x4 showcases how to ward off the rising number of lumber attacks, or limbing some brush is an example of of self-defence against violent vegetation.

It is used to exhibits a certain level of edge durability which can be extended to estimate the level of damage to be expected from accidental impacts in general, and it does so in a way which is easily repeatable by other people as the material being is relatively standard and easily obtained.

As for difficulty, any knife which can't do this without gross damage isn't one which could take exended chopping on harder woods. This got a reputation of being horribly abusive only because of the popularity of the overly brittle high alloy stainless steel blades, and frequent hollow grinds, a recipe for severe problems on any accidently impact, and well illustrated on that particular "test".

Its reputation was in fact probably why it was chosen, as with so many makers calling it abusive it was fairly obvious that it would be a strong promotional tool to be used by Busse as their blades are not significantly harmed by it.

5160 is one of the tougher and more ductile cutlery steels, it would handle this with little problem. I have done cutting with a few of my khukuris that is far more severe than the concrete block test. Specifically for that work you could expect impaction from about 0.015 - 0.045" in thickness depending on the hardness of the khukuri, how hard you were swinging, and your technique.

As for bending khukuris to 90 degrees, I have approached that, and have even rotated them around like the swirl in a candy cane, but not with HI blades.

-Cliff
 
Mr. Stamp.

You always provide great information, and insightful images.

Have a good holiday.
 
Cliff puts things into the proper perspective and I'm glad he hops in here once in awhile to do just that.
 
agreed. But like Cliff, I als0 enjoy "approximating" the effects of real world obstacles on handy hard targets. I haven't done any chop tests on stone or cinderblocks, tho. I'm still just a Cliff Stamp wannabe.;)

Keith
 
I'm glad that some have tested the khuks to the limit, so I know that mine can be expected survive an accidental impact without severe damage.

The cinder-block thing just didn't seem that impressive to me, and I think that hitting a round stone or an embedded nail while digging or chopping would cause more non-cosmetic damage.

So I guess that the cinder block is a good, reproducible filter to broadly differentiate choppers from wannabe choppers, even if it doesn't get close to being as stringent a test as actually striking a hard stone, which I find more likely in actual use than striking a cinder-block.

Sounds like there are a lot of wannabe chopping blades around, which I didn't know.
 
It's not that I am totally impressed but I think it's great they can do that without any damage. Not much good in the real world but you can understand the basic point behind the exercise !!

B
 
I know I can smash concrete blocks all day long with my CS Trail Master.

And I am quite sure I could do the same with any of my AK's.

I won't though because I like my Trail Master and I don't want to scar up the blade for no reason.

I won't do it with my AK's because I really like them alot and they wouldn't forgive me and more than likely bite me later on. :D

And it really doesn't prove anything other than "Yeah I can Do it".
 
firkin :

... an embedded nail while digging or chopping would cause more non-cosmetic damage

Yes, a high strength screw is even worse, these focus all the force of the impact on a very small area, and to make matters worse, they will usually tear out of the wood and thus torque around the edge, snapping across it hard.

-Cliff
 
If I'm in the concrete block smashing mood I generally use a hammer -- the biggest one I have laying around.
 
Originally posted by Bill Martino
If I'm in the concrete block smashing mood I generally use a hammer -- the biggest one I have laying around.

Hunh, Snort!!!!
I almost lost my Fresca through my nose when I read that!!!!

Bill everyone knows you use a 21" or plus Sirupati and try it on a concrete slab thereby busting the tip of the khuk off.:p :rolleyes: :p :rolleyes: :p
 
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