Condayum, It's a Screwed up Culture we live in Today. Update.

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Well they finally figured out what was wrong with Justin. Justin tried to take his life.:(
It was only figured out when Justin's older brother Michael had the presence of mind to go through the trash from the weekend and found the empty bottle of Amitripylene, one of Stella's old prescriptions.
Stella hadn't taken the drug for 6-8 months since her symptoms had cleared up so the pills just set in the cabinet supposedly un-noticed.
Justin took about 50 pills of 50 milligram strength and came very close to succeeding what he set out to do.
The Drs said he was as close to death as anyone could be and still survive.
I don't understand why the drug didn't show up in Justin's system other than that he wasn't tested for this particular one.:confused:
Amitripylene isn't generally a drug of choice for suicide and Justin was very fortunate in that he didn't choose another of the high powered drugs prescribed for his mother setting next to the Amitripylene or he would have succeeded.
Justin hasn't displayed any of the symptoms of depression other than sleeping a lot and mom and dad thought that was due too the amount of homework that Justin had.
Stella said today that Justin has continually been the loving little boy he has always been.

Justin has been moved too the psychiatric wing of the hospital for further evaluation.
Justin has really wanted to succeed at this special shool he is at now and has obsessed over getting all of his homework done and done correctly.
Stella also said that there was a girl that Justin was obsessed over that has been playing the games that girls of that age have always played.:(
Today's culture with the focus on success and sex at such an early age doesn't set real well with anyone methinks, especially the young.:grumpy: :(

I wish I was closer to them so visits would be handy and I could help keep track of all the kids but on the other hand I'm glad I'm where I'm at as I don't know if I could handle it.
But I also think the kids don't get much in the way of spiritual nourishment and that I could provide.
I keep telling mom & dad that the kids need that as much as they do food.
Anyway Justin still has his life and now perhaps with the proper treatment he can get things sorted out and put them in their proper places.
I will keep sending Smoke that he does. My heart is on the ground!:(
 
If there's anything much worse than suicide I'm not aware of it. I sincerely pray Justin can find the help he needs. Sadly it's likely to be a long, long road. :(
 
I pray for resolution to his emotional stability.

It is not easy, Yvsa. It can be right in front of you, but never think someone might try it.
Mom has tried twice. Wrists and overdose of insulin.
The signs were there, but I just didn't recognize or accept the possibility.
I am more aware now, but a strain to keep looking for indicators and sanitizing potential methods.

My thoughts and prayers are with you.
 
If this breaks my heart, I can not imagine what it is doing to yours, Yuh nSuh.

If there is anything I can do, beyond the spiritual, please let me know.
 
I don't know what to say. A 14 year old should be enjoying his life not contemplating ways to take it. I hope that he and his parents gets the help that they need.
 
Sorry to hear about Justin.

These are some strange times. It seems like half of little Dryden highschool is pregnant, drunk before 7:30am, stoned, on probation, in jail for raping old retarded men, or going on arson sprees (two in the past five years). A friend of mine tried to kill himself by overdosing on over the counter drugs, and another nearly died when he either smoked some tainted marijuana or had an allergic reaction to marijuana. I guess there isnt much to do around here but drink, smoke, screw, and play with sharp things.
 
Strength, Yvsa.

You have been a good friend for a newcomer to this forum. IMO anybody from your stock is basically good. I'm glad the docs could save him. I hope the other docs can *really* save him and his family. Smoke was sent this evening to your whole family, and others who have requested.

I pray that you and yours may know that you're not alone in this. As long as you all have family (including us), it is ok.

My prayers go with him, you, and yours, Yvsa.

Namaarie
 
Just a quick note about drug testing: A lot of places do quick screening tests, great for quick answers; but, by no means comprehensive. Usually they can (will?) send out samples for more comprehensive screening. Anyway; let me know if you would like more information. Hope everything goes well.

Anthony Lasome
 
Thank the Creator that he failed and can now get the attention he needs Edutsi. The kids today have it so much harder than we did. Materially rich, spiritually poor as they are. When you do get a chance to talk to him, let him know that you love him...he needs support, not guilt. Smoke for Justin and the rest of the family as you taught me.
 
I take no real pleasure in saying a solemn "I knew it."
I just had a feeling it was something to do with the heart/mind/soul.
Strange stuff like that usually doesnt happen without reason.

I think he should definitely come stay with you, Yvsa.
Put him to work in the garden and make him smell life up close and personal.
(Get his mind off of a family that has too much stress going on)
 
Edutsi,

I'm so sorry! I hope he comes out of this with a new outlook--alot of people do IIRC. And you're right-if you aren't happy spiritually or at least happy with yourself nothing else really matters.



I missed the other thread about this? I haven't been on here much at all lately
 
A second chance is what he now has... amen, he didn't use a firearm.

A classmate of mine shot himself over a girl. What did he think he knew about love at age 16? He's in a grave, forgotten. She's probably on a 2nd marriage, and 3rd kid.

"When you do get a chance to talk to him, let him know that you love him...he needs support, not guilt. Smoke for Justin and the rest of the family as you taught me." -Nasty

That's it. Well said, N.

AA
 
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