Condayum, It's a Screwed up Culture we live in Today. Update.

That is terrible news, Yvsa. At least he was able to keep his life. I'm a pretty young guy at 23. I was a "kid" not too long ago, and I've seen what drives youngsters to such action. I just don't know how they can do it. Out of a school of 900+/- there was at least one suicide every year in my highschool. Everyone of them supposedly well put together kids. stress just took over their lives. the summer before my senior year one of my classmates poisoned himself. It took him three days dying in bed before he passed away. The dr.s had no idea what it was. it turns out that he had been drinking cleaning products. he was a very bright spot in a very worthless family, frankly. Smart, friendly, and funny as hell. all cut short by his own hand.
The lesson that my mother taught to me and i will in turn teach to my children is a simple four word phrase: "This too shall pass". Anytime anything has you down, just have faith that "this too shall pass". I say it all the time out loud. It has never let me down. And if it's something really big, then I say "This too shall pass...and I will be better because of it."
The others are right. Just love the hell out of that boy. That's what he needs. We all could use more of it.

Jake
 
prayers for Justin and family sent (late but from heart)

the kids are getting younger and younger. Just now I have a twelfe year old student that hates me, because I did what I had to do. During the German literature lesson she wrote a letter to some boy she fell in love with. She wrote that she would kill herself if he would not accept her as a girlfriend. Found the letter because she did not listen up in the lesson. She came after the lesson and asked me not to read the letter or give it to someone else - I already had read it and asked for her and one of her girlfriends to stay for two minutes after the lesson to find out about the letter. Well - to 90% this letter was humbug - but what if these suspected 10% were reality and she really did something in that manner and I could have known it? I had to talk to the headmaster, call the mother (single mom, working with the railway company, often not at home), talk to the school psychologist etc. luckily this is still not publicly known, everything is handled quite dicreete. Now she hates me because I had to tell her mother about the secret love she had... feels not good. :(
They are lonely with their desperation - we have to do something different and not buy them another DVD or Nintendo game. They need good friends in their age and they need us to share their problems, to grieve with them and to find perspectives.
Andreas
 
Painful, for the child and my own memories.

I'm a happy family man now, but I remember when I was about his age, and tried the same thing with a different medication, an old frogman named R.B. Benton lived a few doors down, and my girlfriend found me, went to him for help, and he saved my life and turned into a strong mentor. A few years later, I also tried to shoot myself, pulled the trigger and the pistol did not go off. I put in it my lap, wondering what happened, and then it fired and went through the wall. I knew at that point, that I was probably being kept around for a reason, although at the time I really didn't want to go on or understand anything, heck, you can't understand everything in your 20's.

The point is not to draw attention to my own story here, as I said, I'm a happy family man now, it's just to give some advice. Similar to DIJ, I think that putting him in touch with his heritage may help. He needs to have a sense of belonging that is deeper than the current world of circumstances around him. Some time to reconnect with Mother Earth may do him some good, also balanced with positive social interaction and a healthy male role model.

My prayers are with him, and your whole family.
 
It seems you have been getting short shrift for far too long. My heart goes out to you and yours.
Take care,
sending smoke
 
Yvsa, I can't help thinking if he had an example like you, or Kis, or UB around. Maybe there's a wise elder to play grandfather somewhere near him. I'll pray some way it works out in a good way.
 
Weird - first time I read your story I thought midway through that you were heading to this. :(

Hopefully, once his body has healed, friends and family will help with the mind. It's a long, hard road, but thank goodness for second chances.

Smoke.
 
It is a sad tale, and I hope that all works out well.
I am always astounded by how many of my daughter's friends either attempted suicide or succeeded in doing it. She had a friend in middle school who killed himself at 11, and a very close friend did the same at 16. Many of her friends were on Prozac.

I had a friend who killed herself in college.

Fortunately for many troubled kids, there is someone to help out when they need it.

I thnk that most of our adolescents could use a good therapist. The hard part is finding a good one. Just as with any profession, not all of the people with a diploma on the wall are good at what they do.
 
Thanks for all gang! It wasn't easy to post this.:(

I had an email from my daughter a bit ago. She said that Justin is in lock down and hates it there. She's afraid that Justin will say anything to get out, but then who wouldn't. I imagine the docs are used to that and hopefully are aware of when somebody is trying to pull the woll over their eyes.
Stella also stated the Justin was still acting a bit drugged and that she is worried about him.
I'm worried too.:(
 
Did he give a reason, if you don't mind my asking? A note or anything? If you don't want to share that's ok. It's real personal. But maybe it could help.

Smoke and prayers, Yvsa. Strength to your whole family.

Namaarie
 
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