Stacy E. Apelt - Bladesmith
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A thread was closed yesterday and a member was banned.....why??????
Because he lost his temper, and many of you goaded him on.
A question was asked, and apparently no one knew the answer.
So, what did they do....post useless comments and start a flame war.
The first reply was from someone who didn't know the answer...and probably not a clue about the steel in question, or the metallurgy involved.....but he must post or miss an opportunity to see his name in the thread. I have privately asked this person before to just read when he doesn't know the answer, but obviously that isn't what he wants....so he posts away.
The OP took some comments as being derogatory, and made a comment back.
Sure, he seemed a bit of an ass in his replies...but count the number of folks here, including me, who haven't been an ass at one time or another, especially when they think they are being poked at.
So, everyone started poking fun at him and goading him with the same comments that made him say what he said. WHY???????? Are you guys really that bored for something to do????
Then a super-mod was contacted, and gave a warning....that should have been the end of it.....but NOOOOOO.
Everyone starts cheering on the fight like a bunch of school kids at a playground fight. Childish at best, stupid at worst. Today, people get killed in what should have been nothing but an argument because of the gang effect caused by the gathered crowd.
I must say that I am a bit ashamed to be a mod when things like this happen.....and those who were posting should be ashamed of letting it happen.
The question was ,"where can I get 50100B or 0170-6 steel?"
That is a simple question....not an invitation to a fight.
If you don't know the answer....don't answer. If you get a useless answer to a question you ask....don't reply back!
That is a simple rule for keeping situations like this from happening. I sometimes wish the super-mods would start a zero tolerance policy, and ban both parties in an argument. That would either make things a lot more civil here...or very lonely for the survivors
The next time someone comments on another forum why they don't like Bladeforums ...remember this thread....that is what is giving us a bad rep
For the answer to the OP's question, 50100B was the steel Cold Steel sold as Carbon-V. Since they use whatever they can purchase at a good price, you don't really know that is what it was, but it is everyones best guess. 0170-6 is the same steel, just the manufacturers designation.
The current replacement for knife makers is Cru Forged-V, which is very similar, with more vanadium.
52100 is the equivalent steel of choice for others, with more chromium, but no vanadium. Both will forge a very fine grain knife if the procedures and HT are done right.
Because he lost his temper, and many of you goaded him on.
A question was asked, and apparently no one knew the answer.
So, what did they do....post useless comments and start a flame war.
The first reply was from someone who didn't know the answer...and probably not a clue about the steel in question, or the metallurgy involved.....but he must post or miss an opportunity to see his name in the thread. I have privately asked this person before to just read when he doesn't know the answer, but obviously that isn't what he wants....so he posts away.
The OP took some comments as being derogatory, and made a comment back.
Sure, he seemed a bit of an ass in his replies...but count the number of folks here, including me, who haven't been an ass at one time or another, especially when they think they are being poked at.
So, everyone started poking fun at him and goading him with the same comments that made him say what he said. WHY???????? Are you guys really that bored for something to do????
Then a super-mod was contacted, and gave a warning....that should have been the end of it.....but NOOOOOO.
Everyone starts cheering on the fight like a bunch of school kids at a playground fight. Childish at best, stupid at worst. Today, people get killed in what should have been nothing but an argument because of the gang effect caused by the gathered crowd.
I must say that I am a bit ashamed to be a mod when things like this happen.....and those who were posting should be ashamed of letting it happen.
The question was ,"where can I get 50100B or 0170-6 steel?"
That is a simple question....not an invitation to a fight.
If you don't know the answer....don't answer. If you get a useless answer to a question you ask....don't reply back!
That is a simple rule for keeping situations like this from happening. I sometimes wish the super-mods would start a zero tolerance policy, and ban both parties in an argument. That would either make things a lot more civil here...or very lonely for the survivors
The next time someone comments on another forum why they don't like Bladeforums ...remember this thread....that is what is giving us a bad rep
For the answer to the OP's question, 50100B was the steel Cold Steel sold as Carbon-V. Since they use whatever they can purchase at a good price, you don't really know that is what it was, but it is everyones best guess. 0170-6 is the same steel, just the manufacturers designation.
The current replacement for knife makers is Cru Forged-V, which is very similar, with more vanadium.
52100 is the equivalent steel of choice for others, with more chromium, but no vanadium. Both will forge a very fine grain knife if the procedures and HT are done right.
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