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Connecticut?
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Definitely a Connie. You can tell by how drastically the toe and heel curves out - a dayton would be straighter and wouldn't flare out so close to the eye. Also just the width of the cutting edge compared to the overall length.
I actually just went camping over the weekend and took along my 3 lb Keen Kutter Jersey and my 4(?) lb True Temper Connecticut. I think my Connie would still benefit from just a bit more thinning down on the cheeks, but I still managed to fall, section out and split (with wooden wedges) a ~18" thick, 15 ft tall dead standing pine using the axe. Aside from Aussie axes, these are probably the closest patterns you can find to racing axes. Fun stuff.
I actually just went camping over the weekend and took along my 3 lb Keen Kutter Jersey and my 4(?) lb True Temper Connecticut. I think my Connie would still benefit from just a bit more thinning down on the cheeks, but I still managed to fall, section out and split (with wooden wedges) a ~18" thick, 15 ft tall dead standing pine using the axe. Aside from Aussie axes, these are probably the closest patterns you can find to racing axes. Fun stuff.
Definitely a Connie. You can tell by how drastically the toe and heel curves out - a dayton would be straighter and wouldn't flare out so close to the eye. Also just the width of the cutting edge compared to the overall length.
I actually just went camping over the weekend and took along my 3 lb Keen Kutter Jersey and my 4(?) lb True Temper Connecticut. I think my Connie would still benefit from just a bit more thinning down on the cheeks, but I still managed to fall, section out and split (with wooden wedges) a ~18" thick, 15 ft tall dead standing pine using the axe. Aside from Aussie axes, these are probably the closest patterns you can find to racing axes. Fun stuff.
Your Conn. looks larger than the Jersey, and larger than what I have. Then what I have is a smaller 3lb Conn., just a smaller Conn. than what you have.
I'm actually looking for a larger one, but this is all I can currently find for right now.
That's an impressive axe by the way.
Great. Thank you for your help.
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Yeah the cutting edge on it is about 5 3/4" and it's almost exactly 7" long compared to the 5 1/2" cutting edge of the 3 lb Jersey. The Conn is very thick too, especially compared to my very thin-bitted Jersey - I had to put in a lot of work to thin down the cheeks and I think it still needs more taken off. It came with the handle, so I have no way of knowing how much the head weighs by itself. I'm wanting to say it was originally a 4 lb, but is probably 3.75 now since it's missing maybe .5" of its original cutting bit (based on how thick the edge was when I got it) on top of my heavy reprofiling.
And yeah - I was impressed by how much harder the Conn hit than the Jersey, considering the similar 31" handles. Good luck on the hunt for a larger one. 3 lb'ers are fairly rare though and I personally think they make the best jack-of-all-trades axe: a bit more "umph" than a boy's axe, but not as heavy as a full 3.5
i have to say that is NOT a connecticut. looks like a wide bit dayton or similar to me. is the picture a perfect side view, or is the bit angled toward the camera slightly? id like to see a couple more pictures with a different background and something for scale.
the reason i believe its something other than a connecticut, is that fact that the top is a true flare, as in if you put a straight edge on the top of the ax, there would be a considerable gap along its length. if you put a straight edge on the top of a connecticut, there will be little to no gap. they both flare from the poll to the bit, but the connecticut pattern has a flared bottom and nearly straight, angled top(rising to bit) top.
your ax has a very pronounced flare on top.
here is a large collection of connecticut patterns from many makers. notice the straight, or very close to straight(some) upper edges. there are also a couple examples of TT Flint Edge connecticuts to compare too. looking at what was offered in the True Temper Kelly Works line up, the closest i can find would be the wide dayton.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1069198-The-Elusive-Connecticut-Pattern
the reason i believe its something other than a connecticut, is that fact that the top is a true flare, as in if you put a straight edge on the top of the ax, there would be a considerable gap along its length. if you put a straight edge on the top of a connecticut, there will be little to no gap. they both flare from the poll to the bit, but the connecticut pattern has a flared bottom and nearly straight, angled top(rising to bit) top.
your ax has a very pronounced flare on top.
here is a large collection of connecticut patterns from many makers. notice the straight, or very close to straight(some) upper edges. there are also a couple examples of TT Flint Edge connecticuts to compare too. looking at what was offered in the True Temper Kelly Works line up, the closest i can find would be the wide dayton.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1069198-The-Elusive-Connecticut-Pattern
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as i suspected, the first pic was at a slight angle.
i would retract my statement, and say that it IS most likely a connecticut. an odd specimen with the slightly curved top side though. some of the pics i have looked at of the Flint Edge show that some of them in particular had a slight up sweep on the top, and some very straight tops. yours is considerably curved, but the rest seems to fit the pattern criteria.
i would retract my statement, and say that it IS most likely a connecticut. an odd specimen with the slightly curved top side though. some of the pics i have looked at of the Flint Edge show that some of them in particular had a slight up sweep on the top, and some very straight tops. yours is considerably curved, but the rest seems to fit the pattern criteria.
Brettdean, Thank you for this thread 
I have a recent fondness for Connies and have snagged a few that I am curious if really fit the mould. From sub 3lb to over 4lb....I will get some measurements and pics and post up for peoples input. One thing I found straight away- you need a long tongue on a haft to fit a Connecticut ! Some of mine have a sexy taper at the poll when viewed from top- just behind the eye, they taper down just a bit.
Bill
I have a recent fondness for Connies and have snagged a few that I am curious if really fit the mould. From sub 3lb to over 4lb....I will get some measurements and pics and post up for peoples input. One thing I found straight away- you need a long tongue on a haft to fit a Connecticut ! Some of mine have a sexy taper at the poll when viewed from top- just behind the eye, they taper down just a bit.Bill
I am curious if any of the axeperts see anything here that would NOT be a Connnie?
Top left to right and back to left: ______________Taper behind eye?
1)The Collins and Co Legitimus- 7" X 5 1/8" 3 lbs____________Y
2) Collins Old Timer Leg. 6 7/8" X 5 1/8" 3lbs 2oz____________Y
3) Plumb 7.5" X 5.5" 4lbs 4oz___________________________Y
4)The Collins Co Leg. 6 1/4" 4 5/8" 2lbs 1210z_____________N
5)R King 7 1/4 X 5 1/4" 3lbs 9oz________________________Y
Back to right and the straight down
6)R King 7" X 4 7/8" 3lbs 5oz___________________________Y
7) Lakeside 6 3/4" X 5.0" 3lbs 5oz_______________________Y
8) Craftsman double oval 6 3/4" X 4 3/4" 2lbs 13oz_________Y
9)R King 6 3/4" X 5" 3lbs 4oz- distorted eye. Smashed poll
Top left to right and back to left: ______________Taper behind eye?
1)The Collins and Co Legitimus- 7" X 5 1/8" 3 lbs____________Y
2) Collins Old Timer Leg. 6 7/8" X 5 1/8" 3lbs 2oz____________Y
3) Plumb 7.5" X 5.5" 4lbs 4oz___________________________Y
4)The Collins Co Leg. 6 1/4" 4 5/8" 2lbs 1210z_____________N
5)R King 7 1/4 X 5 1/4" 3lbs 9oz________________________Y
Back to right and the straight down
6)R King 7" X 4 7/8" 3lbs 5oz___________________________Y
7) Lakeside 6 3/4" X 5.0" 3lbs 5oz_______________________Y
8) Craftsman double oval 6 3/4" X 4 3/4" 2lbs 13oz_________Y
9)R King 6 3/4" X 5" 3lbs 4oz- distorted eye. Smashed poll
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I did a double take on that axe, at first thinking it might be a Dayton. But seeing the second photo I'd call it a Connecticut.
imalterna, they all look like spot on connecticuts, with exception given to the third one up in the first picture.
my Plumb 3.5 connecticut is tapered behind the eye, id like to see a couple pics of yours from the top to see the taper you speak of.
how on earth did you hang a connecticut on a boys ax haft?
edit - i now see that the boys ax haft has a 2lb 12oz head on it... i have never come across a boys ax anything close to that. does it have a true boys ax eye? that may be neatest ax i have seen!
my Plumb 3.5 connecticut is tapered behind the eye, id like to see a couple pics of yours from the top to see the taper you speak of.
how on earth did you hang a connecticut on a boys ax haft?
edit - i now see that the boys ax haft has a 2lb 12oz head on it... i have never come across a boys ax anything close to that. does it have a true boys ax eye? that may be neatest ax i have seen!
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2"- The little Connie came to me hung and it does have a small eye. The craftsman also has a tweener eye, not quite a boys but not full size either. I am going to rehang it on a used handle that had been dropped below the shoulder. I think finding the odd eye sizes is cool. I would like to rehang the small one but have not found the right handle yet. I have a 29" straight octagon That might do it.
First pic shows the bunch with the smallest one on the left, next pic shows a threesome with the Craftsman on left, last pic compares the big Plumb Connie to a TT Kelly Perfect Jersey to show the taper VS the flare at poll.
Thanks,
Bill
First pic shows the bunch with the smallest one on the left, next pic shows a threesome with the Craftsman on left, last pic compares the big Plumb Connie to a TT Kelly Perfect Jersey to show the taper VS the flare at poll.
Thanks,
Bill
thanks for the extra pics. those are some beauties for sure. my 3.5 Plumb conn has a very pronounced taper behind the eye, more than i have seen before. i am surprised at how well they balance with such a small and tapered poll.
if you ever wanna let one of those smaller guys go, id gladly pay you a fair price for one. ill have to keep an eye out for one of these things!
if you ever wanna let one of those smaller guys go, id gladly pay you a fair price for one. ill have to keep an eye out for one of these things!
2"- I will keep you in mind should I move one. I found it odd that the Collins on the far right in top pic is certainly full sized head based on length but lighter on average and has a but still the smaller eye.
My only Plumb Connie is the big one= longer poll and shows the taper better. With your lighter Plumb showing it also maybe this is just another style difference between makers? That variation is what makes this so interesting to me. It has led to s shift in what interests me and what I keep VS what I move to fund the thirst
Bill
My only Plumb Connie is the big one= longer poll and shows the taper better. With your lighter Plumb showing it also maybe this is just another style difference between makers? That variation is what makes this so interesting to me. It has led to s shift in what interests me and what I keep VS what I move to fund the thirst
Bill
the wide dayton was discussed earlier in the thread. to me, this particular ax seems an inbetween the two ax. id like to see if its tapered behind the eye.
yes, same seller. someone using software got me at the last millisecond. i went for the newer boxed logo because i didnt want to mess with the beat poll of the Leg. nice ax though, and for a great price!