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Contest Trivia! 10/13/1999 For a Camillus......
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You'd think that there would be at least one free knife in ther for my answer including the registration mark!
According to: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/3314/f117.html
...One of the most remarkable things about the F-117A was that in an open society such as that of the United States, an advanced combat aircraft could have been designed, built and entered service in fair numbers, and operated for several years, all in conditions of almost complete secrecy. There were of course some rumours about a so-called F-19; and many artists impressions, all of which were highly inaccurate, found their way into print, which aided security by muddying the waters futher. The NightHawk, as it is unofficially known, started life in 1973 as a design study codenamed Have Blue, the object of which was to determine to what degree an aircraft could be made invisible to radar and IR detection systems. The result was two Experimental Stealth Tactical (XST) prototypes which first flew in mid-1977. Results being satisfactory, the decision to develop a production aircraft was taken about one year later, and this first flew from Groom Lake (Area 51) in June of 1981.
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...One of the most remarkable things about the F-117A was that in an open society such as that of the United States, an advanced combat aircraft could have been designed, built and entered service in fair numbers, and operated for several years, all in conditions of almost complete secrecy. There were of course some rumours about a so-called F-19; and many artists impressions, all of which were highly inaccurate, found their way into print, which aided security by muddying the waters futher. The NightHawk, as it is unofficially known, started life in 1973 as a design study codenamed Have Blue, the object of which was to determine to what degree an aircraft could be made invisible to radar and IR detection systems. The result was two Experimental Stealth Tactical (XST) prototypes which first flew in mid-1977. Results being satisfactory, the decision to develop a production aircraft was taken about one year later, and this first flew from Groom Lake (Area 51) in June of 1981.
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[This message has been edited by Jackyl (edited 13 October 1999).]
Jackyl, ba ba, bA BA Mission Improbable. With a complicated and overpopulated world such as ours there is no such thing as an "open society". But our country works well for what it is even though it has it's faults internally. We are still the most kick-butt and best country to live in and it will live as long as our citizens care, vote, and complain loudly when needed. Oh shoot, what was the topic?
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The F-19 WAS the original Stealth project. The Have Blue was a smaller aircraft with the same lines as the F-117A. The SR-71 is actually the first stealth aircraft, the paint and curves were a kind of crude radar-absorbing setup. As for the African or European question... I don't know what is meant by that, I live in NJ.
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Of course not a one of these mentioned, including the F-117A, is a fighter. F-117A is attack and SR-71 would, at the very best, be only an interceptor.
And as for the F-19, Ben Rich, of Lockheed's Skunkworks said (in his book Skunkworks)..
The F-22/F-23 are the only true low-RCS stealth fighter projects (to my knowledge) ... and they're long after F-117A.
OTOH, the Northrop Black Widow (P-61) was painted black as a night fighter and equipped with radar for night raids... stealth of sorts.
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And as for the F-19, Ben Rich, of Lockheed's Skunkworks said (in his book Skunkworks)..
The F-22/F-23 are the only true low-RCS stealth fighter projects (to my knowledge) ... and they're long after F-117A.
OTOH, the Northrop Black Widow (P-61) was painted black as a night fighter and equipped with radar for night raids... stealth of sorts.
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Have Blue is the correct answer.
Now the SR-71 was replaced by a new aircraft. It is NOT the Aurora........
It uses Hydrogen for it's fuel and the Hydrogen is not stored as molecules but as individual atoms which allows the aircraft to carry a larger fuel load. It flys at nearly Mach 10 and has "SKIP" capability. In the atmosphere it's engines operate as pulse scram jets which explains the donut trails out west and the unexplained shockwaves.
It was tracked on civilian radar for the first time a few years ago. It came in the atmosphere at the wrong angle and created more ionized gas than it normally would. This made it stick out like a sore thumb. LAX ATC tracked an object moving at nearly 4,500 MPH for 6 minutes heading for the Nellis area before it disappeared.
Nuff for now...
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Now the SR-71 was replaced by a new aircraft. It is NOT the Aurora........
It uses Hydrogen for it's fuel and the Hydrogen is not stored as molecules but as individual atoms which allows the aircraft to carry a larger fuel load. It flys at nearly Mach 10 and has "SKIP" capability. In the atmosphere it's engines operate as pulse scram jets which explains the donut trails out west and the unexplained shockwaves.
It was tracked on civilian radar for the first time a few years ago. It came in the atmosphere at the wrong angle and created more ionized gas than it normally would. This made it stick out like a sore thumb. LAX ATC tracked an object moving at nearly 4,500 MPH for 6 minutes heading for the Nellis area before it disappeared.
Nuff for now...
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Best Regards,
Mike Turber
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Do it! Do it right! Do it right NOW!
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