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Raccoon Dinner Brings Out Ark. Politicians
And no, that is not a picture of Yassar Arifat
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By ANDREW DeMILLO, Associated Press Writer Sat Jan 14, 3:29 AM ET
GILLETT, Ark. - In most places, a politician has to kiss babies in order to succeed. Arkansas politicians have to eat raccoon.
The small east Arkansas town of Gillett doubles its population on the second weekend of every year as candidates and political junkies gather for its annual Coon Supper.
More than 60 years old, the event has become a required stop for anyone seeking or holding political office in Arkansas. Originally started as a fundraiser for high school athletics, it's now the ultimate meet-and-greet for the state's politicians.
"If anybody wants to be in the political scene in Arkansas, it's a must to attend the Coon Supper," said Phil English, the master of ceremonies.
Friday's supper was especially busy since it's an election year. Both announced candidates for Arkansas governor Asa Hutchinson and Attorney General Mike Beebe attended to shake hands, talk politics and, for those with the stomach for it, eat barbecued raccoon.
"Raccoon tastes like raccoon," English said. "I've never heard of any elected official or politician who didn't like 'coon."
Over the years, legends have developed about back-room deals made in Gillett, and political gossip is as plentiful as the several hundred pounds of raccoon served in the high school gymnasium.
U.S. Rep. Marion Berry (news, bio, voting record), D-Ark., whose district includes Gillett, hosts a party at his farm before the annual dinner. He credits the gathering with his own political fortune and said he's witnessed far too many deals in his own living room before the supper.
"If it weren't for the Coon Supper, I probably wouldn't be in public life today," Berry said.
The gathering even earned a mention in former U.S. Sen. Dale Bumpers' speech defending Bill Clinton during impeachment proceedings in 1999.
Bumpers recalled a 1988 flight he and then-Governor Clinton took to DeWitt, on their way to the Coon Supper that year. The plane crashed on an icy runway, but neither were injured.
Bumpers called the supper "a political event that one misses at his own risk."
Tickets for the supper usually sell out weeks in advance, with candidates and parties buying blocks for supporters and colleagues.
Unofficially, the supper is a political shindig but organizers are careful to keep politics out of the evening's program. Only elected officials are allowed to speak at the gathering, so aspiring politicians don't have a chance to make any stump speeches but go to be seen.
Organizers spent the last few days before the supper preparing between 600 and 800 pounds of raccoon meat for the supper. As the supply of the animal dwindles and as palates change, the amount served has dropped from the 1,800 pounds or so that has been served in past years.
Though the event has a rich history, some have raised questions about how much longer it will be able to continue. The Gillett schools were consolidated into another district two years ago, and some wonder if the 120-student high school can survive. Losing the high school would mean losing the dinner's host.
State Sen. Shane Broadway, D-Bryant, said he doesn't think Gillett will allow its school or the Coon Supper to disappear completely: "This is the one place where I don't see that happening. You have a community here that will fight to keep this school."
Linda Cover, who helps prepares sweet potatoes served with the raccoon, said the feast is considered an unofficial holiday for the Delta town.
"Around here, the holidays start with Thanksgiving and they're not really over until after the Coon Supper," said Cove
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And no, that is not a picture of Yassar Arifat
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By ANDREW DeMILLO, Associated Press Writer Sat Jan 14, 3:29 AM ET
GILLETT, Ark. - In most places, a politician has to kiss babies in order to succeed. Arkansas politicians have to eat raccoon.
The small east Arkansas town of Gillett doubles its population on the second weekend of every year as candidates and political junkies gather for its annual Coon Supper.
More than 60 years old, the event has become a required stop for anyone seeking or holding political office in Arkansas. Originally started as a fundraiser for high school athletics, it's now the ultimate meet-and-greet for the state's politicians.
"If anybody wants to be in the political scene in Arkansas, it's a must to attend the Coon Supper," said Phil English, the master of ceremonies.
Friday's supper was especially busy since it's an election year. Both announced candidates for Arkansas governor Asa Hutchinson and Attorney General Mike Beebe attended to shake hands, talk politics and, for those with the stomach for it, eat barbecued raccoon.
"Raccoon tastes like raccoon," English said. "I've never heard of any elected official or politician who didn't like 'coon."
Over the years, legends have developed about back-room deals made in Gillett, and political gossip is as plentiful as the several hundred pounds of raccoon served in the high school gymnasium.
U.S. Rep. Marion Berry (news, bio, voting record), D-Ark., whose district includes Gillett, hosts a party at his farm before the annual dinner. He credits the gathering with his own political fortune and said he's witnessed far too many deals in his own living room before the supper.
"If it weren't for the Coon Supper, I probably wouldn't be in public life today," Berry said.
The gathering even earned a mention in former U.S. Sen. Dale Bumpers' speech defending Bill Clinton during impeachment proceedings in 1999.
Bumpers recalled a 1988 flight he and then-Governor Clinton took to DeWitt, on their way to the Coon Supper that year. The plane crashed on an icy runway, but neither were injured.
Bumpers called the supper "a political event that one misses at his own risk."
Tickets for the supper usually sell out weeks in advance, with candidates and parties buying blocks for supporters and colleagues.
Unofficially, the supper is a political shindig but organizers are careful to keep politics out of the evening's program. Only elected officials are allowed to speak at the gathering, so aspiring politicians don't have a chance to make any stump speeches but go to be seen.
Organizers spent the last few days before the supper preparing between 600 and 800 pounds of raccoon meat for the supper. As the supply of the animal dwindles and as palates change, the amount served has dropped from the 1,800 pounds or so that has been served in past years.
Though the event has a rich history, some have raised questions about how much longer it will be able to continue. The Gillett schools were consolidated into another district two years ago, and some wonder if the 120-student high school can survive. Losing the high school would mean losing the dinner's host.
State Sen. Shane Broadway, D-Bryant, said he doesn't think Gillett will allow its school or the Coon Supper to disappear completely: "This is the one place where I don't see that happening. You have a community here that will fight to keep this school."
Linda Cover, who helps prepares sweet potatoes served with the raccoon, said the feast is considered an unofficial holiday for the Delta town.
"Around here, the holidays start with Thanksgiving and they're not really over until after the Coon Supper," said Cove
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we used to have coons in our last house. They tore a 3' hole in our roof and lived in the attic for a while. The worst part was the loss of sleep be cause they would make all kinds of noise all night. Finally one night I got totally sick of it. They were around the pond in the back yard fishing and trilling after they had brawled with and killed a possum. So I slid the window open quietly and grabbed my 12ga and proceeded to sight in on them. they were about 20-25' away and I had loaded up 3" 00 buck round, and I wanted to get both with one shot. So about the time I was sliding the safety off my wife leans over my shoulder and starts cooing about how cute they are, and then says "no they are soooo cute you can't shoot them with that". After a moments thought I said "your right honey" so I put the shot gun down.
then I went and grabbed her competition .22(really mine but she liked it so much she stole it). then next weekend we found the huge hole in our roof and I finally got the kudos I deserved.
then I went and grabbed her competition .22(really mine but she liked it so much she stole it). then next weekend we found the huge hole in our roof and I finally got the kudos I deserved.
I had a problem with bats when I lived in an old farmhouse in Eastern Montana. Early in the morning they'd fly back into the attic and wall of my bedroom and make a lot of racket.
I think everyone thinks Racoons are pretty neat until one of them destroys something on the property.
We had one tree on our land that was not an evergreen, and I wanted it to grow. IT was about 3' high. A Porcupine came by and started eating the bark. I was getting ready to shoot it when the Wife said the Porcupine was more valuable to her than the tree. OK. We let the Porcupine go on eating. The tree died; he'd bearded it.
After that my oldest son and I agreed the next time Porky came back he was dead. But he never came back. There aren't any more tasty trees here to eat, I guess.
munk
I think everyone thinks Racoons are pretty neat until one of them destroys something on the property.
We had one tree on our land that was not an evergreen, and I wanted it to grow. IT was about 3' high. A Porcupine came by and started eating the bark. I was getting ready to shoot it when the Wife said the Porcupine was more valuable to her than the tree. OK. We let the Porcupine go on eating. The tree died; he'd bearded it.
After that my oldest son and I agreed the next time Porky came back he was dead. But he never came back. There aren't any more tasty trees here to eat, I guess.
munk
Racoons are sort of fun until your house cat gets into a territorial battle with one that is tuff or even worse, has rabies. Then you suffer too. Hard for a house cat to get the best of a racoon. Coons are tough customers. At times, on the farm, they would become quite a pest, as bad as the long tailed grey digger squirrels, at night we would chase the coons and get em to go up a tree, then with a flashlight, we would shoot them out of the tree.munk said:
Anyway coons are cute but quite a pest to have around.
iBear
What will you use a .45 auto for, on a coon hunt? Maybe wanna create a little splattered coon syrup for lunch?Krull said:I have cats.....coons kill cats.....therefore they don't live if we meet.
Best weapons for coon removal:.223;.45 auto;12ga.
Coons are hell on cats that is sure.
iBear
You have that right. Hard for a cat to get the best of a coon. A cat up in Oregon that lives at Loon Lake, outside of Reedsport, Oregon, is half bobcat and half Tom cat. Twice this big ol' cat has taken on a coon, both times this cat has come out second best. He got ripped up pretty good the first time and it took two months to heal. He is recovering again from his second adventure. At least the coon didn't kill him, yet. This ol' cat ain't no quitter. After he heals up, he decides to try it again and he goes back for another try. Maybe he's catching on by now..... coons are tough customers.Krull said:I have cats.....coons kill cats.....therefore they don't live if we meet.
Best weapons for coon removal:.223;.45 auto;12ga.
He will be recuperating for another 6 or 7 weeks. I asked my brother to send us a picture of this war hero. If I get a picture of him, I will try to load it and let everyone get a look at this tuff guy.
iBear
I carry a Glock 21 .45 auto on my 64.7 acers all the time...if it's all I got then it's war time!!ibear said:
Of course coons are funny,I've blasted them so full of holes it ain't right..but they keep going,and this with a .45!
the 12ga and .223 tend to spatter them all over the durn place-ICK! Oh yea...four times now I just said "the heck with it" and gave a few whacks with my sword,cutting the neck ends it.
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Krull said:
One day I was walking at Red Bud Valley, our closest nature preserve and came across an old boar coon.
He was walking in such a way that he was going to cross the path in front of me so I stopped.
He didn't. I don't know whether he hadn't seen me or smelled me or maybe had rabies but I wasn't taking any chances as all I had was my walking stick and a usual decent sized knife for most things.
Now if I could've duck taped the knife to the end of my stick for use s a spear I might have joined battle with him but I still doubt it.
That was the biggest dayumed ol boar coon I have ever seen!
His body alone must've been 3 feet long and his butt was at least a foot in the air from the ground!
I wasn't more than maybe eight feet from him when he crossed the path and he didn't even turn his head to look at me.
I've often wondered about him. His coloration was off as well, don't know if he had been into something but his butt end was kinda orangish, a dull orange color. Weird he was.
I showed him respect and he ignored me, I was perfectly fine with that.
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A .45 auto will stop a coon dead in its tracks far less than half the time, unless you hit the brain. Sure they will die, but the problem is keeping them from running down a hole or getting away wounded. Or, in many cases, the problem is stopping them before they jump on your face. That one's always exciting. Just a few pages back in this very thread I also mentioned a coon that hardly even slowed down after taking several solid hits from my .45. I have over 50 pages of very similar stories typed up as a journal.
And I agree- they can still do some amazing stuff with a couple holes punched through 'em, but no critter can go anywhere after being lopped in half.
A .45 auto will stop a coon dead in its tracks far less than half the time, unless you hit the brain. Sure they will die, but the problem is keeping them from running down a hole or getting away wounded. Or, in many cases, the problem is stopping them before they jump on your face. That one's always exciting.
Just a few pages back in this very thread I also mentioned a coon that hardly even slowed down after taking several solid hits from my .45. I have over 50 pages of very similar stories typed up as a journal. And I agree- they can still do some amazing stuff with a couple holes punched through 'em, but no critter can go anywhere after being lopped in half.
What are you guys usin in them thar .45's, that durn GI ball stuff?
Seems to me that when Mr Coon meets Mr 230gr Hydroshock,
there's gonna be some bleedin' and dyin' done.
DaddyDett
P.S. If that .45 don't get er' done, time to break out the Socom 16 M1A .308
and do some serious drainin' of the Coon gene pool.
Seems to me that when Mr Coon meets Mr 230gr Hydroshock,
there's gonna be some bleedin' and dyin' done.
DaddyDett
P.S. If that .45 don't get er' done, time to break out the Socom 16 M1A .308
and do some serious drainin' of the Coon gene pool.
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My preferred load is a 185 grain Gold Dot going about 1200 fps, but I have also used Winchester Silver Tips, WWB 230 grn JHP's, 255 grain SWC's, and lots of others including GI ball. Overall hollowpoints may be more effective, but the difference is certainly not night and day.
I'd love to see you trying to use that Socom up in the silo, where you'd be standing on a ladder 30 feet above the concrete floor, inside a chute that's barely bigger than you.
I'd love to see you trying to use that Socom up in the silo, where you'd be standing on a ladder 30 feet above the concrete floor, inside a chute that's barely bigger than you.
Or, in many cases, the problem is stopping them before they jump on your face. That one's always exciting. >>>>>>>but no critter can go anywhere after being lopped in half>>>>>>>>the possom
I've only seen them run away after being hit by a .22; same with a .41, but it is the fear of just that, a run over to bite my leg or rake my side, that has me a little concerned about the khuk method of dispatch. You have to get close enough to them to bite; is that a good idea? And if you miss and just maim, he's going to be pissed. They carry all kinds of nasty germs, too.
On another note; what happens when Coons fight Possums?
As for cats, a cat's claws aren't in the same league as a Coon's, either are the teeth, and the Coon is at least twice as large. The house cat doesn't stand a chance. A Bobcat is a different matter, I'd think.
munk
I've only seen them run away after being hit by a .22; same with a .41, but it is the fear of just that, a run over to bite my leg or rake my side, that has me a little concerned about the khuk method of dispatch. You have to get close enough to them to bite; is that a good idea? And if you miss and just maim, he's going to be pissed. They carry all kinds of nasty germs, too.
On another note; what happens when Coons fight Possums?
As for cats, a cat's claws aren't in the same league as a Coon's, either are the teeth, and the Coon is at least twice as large. The house cat doesn't stand a chance. A Bobcat is a different matter, I'd think.
munk
the possum said:My preferred load is a 185 grain Gold Dot going about 1200 fps, but I have also used Winchester Silver Tips, WWB 230 grn JHP's, 255 grain SWC's, and lots of others including GI ball. Overall hollowpoints may be more effective, but the difference is certainly not night and day.
I'd love to see you trying to use that Socom up in the silo, where you'd be standing on a ladder 30 feet above the concrete floor, inside a chute that's barely bigger than you.
Not my kinda place to be, man. Tight spaces and ladders are both way low on my list of fun. Besides, I am such a chimney head tobacco fiend, I'd
probably blow the silo up.
DaddyDett
P.S. Here in central Virginia, rabid raccoons are a problem. I am very surprised I dont have em up in my yard now and then, as there are 2 creeks within 500 yds of me.
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munk said:
Well, I'm not advocating the blade method to anyone else here. But 18" of blade means that you can dispatch them relatively safely- it's sure better than a pocketknife. (though I've used folders plenty too.) In many cases it's also preferable to risking ricochets. Yes, they do get pissed if the first blow isn't good enough, but a quick blade can be redirected well enough. I greatly prefer my big Bowie over the khuk, as it's dynamic balance is much better.
I've seen coons and O'possums around each other many times, but never actually witnessed them fighting. Dad did see a coon chasing one of the farm cats early one morning, though. They ran right past him. Of course, if you were just making a light hearted joke there, I haven't lost yet.
