Correction: Schrade SCHF1/SCHF2 Alloy

FortyTwoBlades said:
It was the SCHF1. I may be wrong, but the edge never spotted in spite of sweaty summer people handling them all the time. We've had to protect the blades of some of our display models with Ren. Wax to keep them from getting cosmetic blemishes on humid days and what have you...and our functional swords get oiled daily to prevent the same. So if they were indeed 1070 in the original release I'd be very surprised. Good for them if it was though!
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It's worth posing that question to Taylor Brands. I sent an e-mail to Morgan today. He's been really good at responding to my questions so far, so hopefully I'll hear back from him soon. If I do, I'll post his response here.
 
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Apparently, Morgan Taylor doesn't mind working on the weekends!

The first question I asked Morgan in my e-mail to him today was as follows:

"Have the SCHF1 and SCHF2 always been constructed of 1070? There's some confusion in the marketplace because the rest of the models in the Extreme Survival line appear to be manufactured of stainless steel."

Morgan's response:

"Yes the SCHF1 and SCHF2 are SEA-1070 steel and have always been made that way. There are Schrade Extreme models also being made in stainless steel as well as 2 new ones coming in the SEA-1070 and a neck knife Extreme Survival in 1095."

My second question was:

"Why did Taylor choose to use 1070 to construct the SCHF1 and SCHF2 as opposed to a more well-known, high-carbon cutlery alloy such as 1095?"

Morgan's response:

"We use a variety of different steel on our items and when deciding we look at what the item is going to be used for, whom the end user is, what we need it to sell for etc. We like the 1070 and that is why we choose to use that particular steel on those 2 items."

Hope that helps. :)
 
Hell, I don't think I have any other knife made out of 1070 so....let her rip. Me likey!
T
WOW, A week-end answer????!!!!!
Cool
 
Well, then! Good for them! I guess they're taking a step up in the world quality-wise, even if they can't do it on a knife of their own design. Certainly a bargain, though, even if they are copies.
 
The fact that they're copies of designs I like but could never afford is precisely what attracted me to them in the first place. And the fact that they're 85% cheaper than the originals, constructed of decent tool steel, and tough enough to take a lickin' and keep on tickin' is why I bought one. How Taylor managed to pull it off is none of my business. For me, it's all about the knives.
 
Like I said it doesn't terribly bother me per-se, I just wouldn't buy one myself due to my own personal morals.
 
Is this thread about blade steel or personal morality (I think you mean ethics)?

Taylor probably chose 1070 because: it's a cheap tool steel that fits the application of the knife (able to take abuse and less emphasis on edge holding) and they must have a source for stock thick enough to machine the whole knife out of a solid piece. Maybe they couldn't find a source with 1095 in thick enough bars?

For the $50 asking price of these Schrade knives, I can think of a better alternative that's made in in the USA with 1095-CroVan tool steel for only a 20 spot extra.
 
Really? A hollow-handled, USA-made integral fighter constructed of 1095-CroVan for around $70.00? Do tell. Where would I find one of those? :confused:

By the way, your theory as to why Taylor used 1070 to construct the SCHF1 and SCHF2 makes sense. The only other thing I can think of is that Taylor was trying to achieve a certain price point and wouldn't have been able to accomplish it using 1095.

Last but not least, as you alluded to in your opening question, this is a discussion about blade steel, not about morals or ethics. I'd suggest we all try to keep it on topic if we can.
 
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Plain old carbon steel is about as cheap as steel gets. It's coincidence that it also makes wonderful knife blade material, among the best, at any price.
 
Yep. Here's Joe Talmadge's take on 10-series steel:

"The 10-series -- 1095 (and 1084, 1070, 1060, 1050, etc.) Many of the 10-series steels for cutlery, though 1095 is the most popular for knives. When you go in order from 1095-1050, you generally go from more carbon to less, from better edge holding to less edge holding, and tough to tougher to toughest. As such, you'll see 1060 and 1050, used often for swords. For knives, 1095 is sort of the "standard" carbon steel, not too expensive and performs well. It is reasonably tough and holds an edge very well. It rusts easily. This is a simple steel, which contains only two alloying elements: .95% carbon and .4% manganese. The various kabars are usually 1095 with a black coating."

I've got knives in 1095, 1085 and 1070. They're all good performers. And I'm definitely looking forward to the next 1070 Schrade offerings Morgan Taylor referred to in his e-mail to me. Hopefully they'll prove to be as durable and affordable as the SCHF1 and SCHF2 turned out to be.
 
As a "do it all" knife I would think the "10" series steels would be a great choice. I believe that although they don't hold an edge as well as many of the super steels they are easier to sharpen in the field. And the fact that they would bend or roll as oppose to break or chip sweetens the deal.
T
PS. The mall ninja in me likes the fact that you can beat on this knife. And lets get to the heart of the matter...you can make a spear out of her pretty easy!!!!
 
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