Correlation between preferred knife style and tendency to use combative language?

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Uncle Bill

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Who on these forums gets combative more easily?

--people whose collections are mostly black, mostly one-hand folders and other "tactical" models, and who are always thinking/talking about self-defense?

or

--people who primarily buy traditional patterns and prefer stag and leather in their mostly hunting/ranching-style collections?

Let 'er buck! . . .

 
Sounds like a hot topic! Talk about stirring the kettle! (where do the sebenza owners fit in?) Should have a third category--those that hide 'em out in their belt line, seldom use the blade, sharpen the hell out of the blade, and have bare arms!
 
Well, then we'd need a fourth category: folks who buy one-hand folders 'cause they're more convenient to use; buy them in black 'cause that's what they sell; and grew up and figured out that they've reached middle age without once needing to use a knife as a weapon.

Dave


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[This message has been edited by dsvirsky (edited 18 November 1999).]
 
The way it works for me is that I only get combative when I have a black knife in my pocket. When I carry my old timer, I'm a peacable kind of guy.

O'Henry was right: The "clothes" make the man.
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Hoodoo

Doubt grows with knowledge.
--Goethe
 
I've been lurking here for several months and have only recently decided to participate. I don't particularly enjoy it when threads explode into flames, but sometimes it is amusing. People seem to forget themselves sometimes in the perception of anonymity that the internet provides. I can't answer Uncle Bill's question since I've seen all sorts of innocent looking threads turn into Fire and Brimstone. I think people need to pay more attention to the eleventh commandmant:

Thou shalt Not take thyself so G** D***** seriously.

My apologies in advance to all those who may be offended by this post. I'm just trying to lighten things up a little. I hope this doesn't result in THIS thread being canned.
Paracelsus

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My perception is that forum members tend to spread out within sort of a 3-D grid or continuum. Extremes out toward the edges of this coordinate map include:

--people for whom knives are tools, period - something to get a job done and nothing more.

--people for whom knives are some sort of Freudian/phallic self-concept enhancement device.

--people for whom knives play a philosophical or aesthetic role.

I think that, to the degree a person is located more toward the Freudian/phallic part of the grid, they also tend too easily to use combative language.

Of course those of us with multiple personality disorders move constantly from coordinate to coordinate. And, there being so many of us like that among knife people, the possibility of any statistical analysis is probably very small.
 
All I knows is that it's th' other guys what causes all th' trouble. I don't want no trouble, but I gots to defend myself.
 
Right on Paracelsus!!!!!

Uncle Bill, I see no reason to correlate interest in fighting knives with more combative behavior, written, verbal or otherwise. Knife people, as with any other defined segment of society, are a cross section of the whole. However, it is sometimes disappointing to discover that the lowest common denominator in a group is far too common.

Like the comment made by Paracelsus states...some of the emotion in these angry threads is amusing, some embarrassing, I would think....but these are honest exchanges of thought and feeling. We are all passionate about knives. I am not offended by these recent threads. I find them interesting and revealing. It makes this forum more meaningful. One can gather more information about the other forumites with which to evaluate value of their input into the general bank of information being built here.

We have real resource here. It's a dynamic community. The membership grows daily. As physically isolated as we are from each other, it seems that that many real friendships have been made among forumites. The forum is just a slice of the real world. As for flames...just remember the 11th commandment.

for what it's worth...

ptn
 
"Section 1: What Is A Troll?
The WWW gives this as a definition:

troll v.,n. To utter a posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable responses or flames. Derives from the phrase "trolling for newbies"; which in turn comes from mainstream "trolling";, a style of fishing in which one trails bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite. The well-constructed troll is a post that induces lots of newbies and flamers to make themselves look even more clueless than they already do, while subtly conveying to the more savvy and experienced that it is in fact a deliberate troll. If you don't fall for the joke, you get to be in on it.
The following extract is from a broader expansion of the defining comments given above:

In Usenet usage, a "troll" is not a grumpy monster that lives beneath a bridge accosting passers-by, but rather a provocative posting to a newsgroup intended to produce a large volume of frivolous responses. The content of a "troll" posting generally falls into several areas. It may consist of an apparently foolish contradiction of common knowledge, a deliberately offensive insult to the readers of a newsgroup, or a broad request for trivial follow-up postings.
There are three reasons why people troll newsgroups:

People post such messages to get attention, to disrupt newsgroups, and simply to make trouble.
Career trollers tend for the latter two whilst the former is the mark of the clueless newbie and should be ignored."

-From www.altairiv.demon.co.uk/troll/trollfaq.html

 
Personally, I like the contentious threads. They often are entertaining, sometimes funny, sometimes educational. The only negative is that sometimes people get so irked they leave, and that's too bad. I hate vanilla - pc anything, so an internet argument is always fun to watch.

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Matt Harildstad
Knifemaker
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matth@planet.eon.net

 
Or could it be that folks with "traditional" knife tastes have hashed out all the "hot" topics years ago?

Take care,

Mike

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TANSTAAFL


 
I AM NOT COMBATIVE BECAUSE I LIKE BLACK HANDLED KNIVES AND ANY &%*^$#@ THAT SAYS I AM IS A @%$&# *&$%@#*&!! AND NEEDS TO DIE! %#$@* &*%&$#!
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Alrighty then!
ptn,
I like your statements.
It is an accurate reflection on my feelings about the Forums.
Well said!
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If a man says something in the woods and there are no women there to correct him, is he still wrong?

 
Maybe we need a "Seven Deadly Sins of posting at BladeForums, or What Not To Do".

Anyone want to start a new thread with that topic?

Spark

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Kevin Jon Schlossberg
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I'm a very combative person, if you in any way do anything to mistreat a female in my presence. I usualy don't take much crap from people either.

However, it's got nothing to do with any knife or weapon or other inaminate object I may or may not have. It's got a lot to do with my personal ethics and morality.

If you're a good person not looking to cause trouble, I'm very peaceable. Irregardless of wether or not I'm armed.
 
I'm ornery as all heck, and I like puukkos. Give me a nice little knife with a birch handle, carbon steel blade, leather sheath, no guard at all, small enough to stick in my pocket sheath and all -- I'm happy. I see one of those at a show from across the room and I'll knock over tables full of black-handled folders in my rush to go look at it.

I'll admit my other pocket has a little knife with a black 550 cord-wrapped handle, but the blade is only 3" (75mm) long and the whole knife is only 6" (15cm) -- and there's no thumb stud, of course (I don't think much of those new-fangled trick knives with the joint in the middle to fold them up with ... dumbest idea since riveting scythe blades to your chariot wheels, in my humble opinion....)

Besides, I only like cordwrap handles because I can unwrap the cord and check the tang for secret marks without having to go to the expense of x-ray equipment....

For a random selection of other ornery members, Snickersnee is enamored of the good 'ol Buck 110 as I recall (and he hates cordwrap), and Les Robertson is mostly interested in knives that cost over $2,500 dollars (is that the right cut-off figure, Les? Please correct me if I'm wrong), and Harv is often outspoken about how much better a knife with a very thin blade can cut than any of those thick tactical pry bars, and he likes latchless balisongs and never carries one, only plays with them, and Spark -- what kind of knives do you like, Spark? Probably you've said but I don't remember.... Mike Turber likes autos, high-buck autos ... hey, maybe he's one of them switchblade-totin' juvenile delinquents!

A reasonable person might expect that here of all places we would be free of prejudices about people who like knives or who like longer or blacker knives than we do, but we of the Wholly Brotherhood and Cisternity are not reasonable people! We have a better source to get our opinions from than mere reason -- we have direct access to the Voracious Truth! So it doesn't surprise us that darkness is rampant among knife knuts -- knife knuts are the very people the Ministry of Darkness directs most of its nefarious efforts against! Yes, Brethren and Cistern, we are fighting a secret Wholly War against the minions of the Ministry of Darkness, and they will stop at nothing! They will sneak into your very home and paint your knife with an invisible virus culture while you sleep, and the next time you cut yourself with that knife you will be infected with homophobia! I tell you, they will stop at nothing!

Be warned. Be alert for the symptoms. X-ray all your knives to check for secret marks. Sleep with your knives under your pillow -- and sleep lightly, lest your knives be contaminated while you sleep. Watch these forums for further bulletins -- the newest update of the Wholly Brotherhood and Cisternity FAQ will be posted in the Community Forum of this website soon -- don't miss it.

-Cougar Allen :{)
 
One of my favorite knives is an old Buck 3 blade Stockman. Now I have "black handle knives" close at hand to back up the Walther PPK I carry off duty (either Benchmade or Livesay) because I have had people threaten to kill me and my my family because of the line of work I'm in (I know most of them are just mouthing off but who knows.)

Trying to criticize someone over their choice of a knife is like trying to criticize someone over their choice in a spouse, either way you're going to make an enemy for no reason.
 
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