Corrosive Ammo?

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I have found a cheap supply of 303 ammo, but it's corrosive.

I know its bad if you don't clean your gun right away, but considering it will be used in an old miliary gun, and I always clean my guns, does anybody have any opinions on corrosive ammo (given these conditions).

Thanks
 
Seems to me like it should be fine as long as you clean your gun each time. I think it is the primer (Berdan primed?) that is corrosive, so you may want to make sure that you clean the chamber and magazine of the rifle very well. Of course I don't know too much about this subject, so I may be way off.
 
You just need to be sure to clean it regularly and thoroughly after shooting. It's mainly the potassium salts in the primer that cause the damage, which are water soluble. This is why most folks say something like soapy water will take care of things. In my personal experience with the corrosive stuff, a good cleaning with any solvent will do the trick. Others have advocated using Windex to clean your bore.

THR has some very helpful threads on such topics.
http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=274927&highlight=corrosive
http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=301476&highlight=corrosive
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu13.htm

That should give you lots of reading! :thumbup: :D
 
Others have advocated using Windex to clean your bore.

I'm a big fan of the old mil-surp bolt action rifles and have shot a LOT of corrosive ammo through the years. I use Windex with pretty good results. Just to be safe I regularly check the bores of my rifles for rust. As long as you are dilligent about maintaining your weapons, shooting corrosive ammo isn't that big a deal.
 
I shoot a lot of corrosive 8mm and 7.62X54. Just be sure to clean them the same day you shoot them (I made the mistake once of letting it go for a couple days, and got a rusty bore). Using ammonia or windex, just do a wet patch followed by dry patch three or four times, then use a nitro solvent cleaner like normal.
 
I shoot corrosive military surplus in my Finnish Mosin. A lot of folks do. It's no bigger a problem than shooting a black powder gun- something that gets more popular every year. You just need to clean your gun after shooting it (that evening is good), and make sure you use an ammonia based solevent (I use Sweets 7.62 solvant). Many people use Windex to neutralize the salts.
 
Mike, only if your old Enfield is really pristine would I hesitate to shoot cheap corrosive ammo in it. Assuming your rifle is in average condition, go ahead and shoot that corrosive ammo and enjoy the hell out of it. Just pay attention to cleaning it before that day is over. I've also read that it's a good idea to give the bore a second or third light cleaning over the next few days to remove the corrosive elements that penetrate into the pores of the steel itself and "seep out" slowly over time. I think the salts involved will weaken the brass cases, too, so plan on throwing them away after firing instead of reloading them. As I understand it, corrosive primers were used for so long in military ammo by many nations because the resulting ammo was and still is so reliable and long lasting if stored under halfway decent conditions. The .303 British is one of the great old rounds that has killed everything that walks, crawls, swims, or flies at one time or another. I hear it is still very popular among average hunters in Canada. A .303 British Enfield was my first high-powered rifle. I bought it and several boxes of ammo for about $15 in Chattanooga around 1961, then brought it home to Central Florida, wrapped up good in an old piece of blanket and sitting upright between my knees on a Greyhound bus. Nobody even asked me what I had. My old aunt I was visiting let me buy it while I was out from under Mama's thumb for a couple of weeks. :D
 
Mike, go to www.aimsurplus.com and take a look. They currently have some corrosive .303 ammo @ $6.95 for 32 rounds. If you can find some Enfield stripper clips they would be nice to have. These AIM Surplus folks are good people to do business with. I've bought ammo from them several times (delivered to my door, of course), and always with complete satisfaction. They put out a nice, small sale brochure about twice or three times a year, so you may want to get on their mailing list. The surplus weapons they sell are among the best on the market in my opinion, too. :thumbup:
 
With corrosive ammo....I'm afraid to use it. That stuff will eat your gun. If ya have to, ya have to. I know about cleaning it after shooting, but still. I'm scared that the corrosive element will get into the action or trigger group where I normally don't clean.:confused:
 
Mike, only if your old Enfield is really pristine would I hesitate to shoot cheap corrosive ammo in it. Assuming your rifle is in average condition, go ahead and shoot that corrosive ammo and enjoy the hell out of it. Just pay attention to cleaning it before that day is over. I've also read that it's a good idea to give the bore a second or third light cleaning over the next few days to remove the corrosive elements that penetrate into the pores of the steel itself and "seep out" slowly over time. I think the salts involved will weaken the brass cases, too, so plan on throwing them away after firing instead of reloading them. As I understand it, corrosive primers were used for so long in military ammo by many nations because the resulting ammo was and still is so reliable and long lasting if stored under halfway decent conditions. The .303 British is one of the great old rounds that has killed everything that walks, crawls, swims, or flies at one time or another. I hear it is still very popular among average hunters in Canada. A .303 British Enfield was my first high-powered rifle. I bought it and several boxes of ammo for about $15 in Chattanooga around 1961, then brought it home to Central Florida, wrapped up good in an old piece of blanket and sitting upright between my knees on a Greyhound bus. Nobody even asked me what I had. My old aunt I was visiting let me buy it while I was out from under Mama's thumb for a couple of weeks. :D


Thanks Doc, the links posted by Spooky above give a very detailed discussion of cleaning after corrosive ammo. If anybody is checking them, be sure to read the entire link - there is some contradiction that eventually clears itself out.

The wood on my 303 is a little banged up, but it seems to be very accurate (more so than my modern rifles). This is why I am hesitating on the corrosive ammo - don't want to mess up a good thing.


Cool story by the way.
 
Mike, go to www.aimsurplus.com and take a look. They currently have some corrosive .303 ammo @ $6.95 for 32 rounds. If you can find some Enfield stripper clips they would be nice to have. These AIM Surplus folks are good people to do business with. I've bought ammo from them several times (delivered to my door, of course), and always with complete satisfaction. They put out a nice, small sale brochure about twice or three times a year, so you may want to get on their mailing list. The surplus weapons they sell are among the best on the market in my opinion, too. :thumbup:

Doc - I found the exact same ammo on another site, even cheaper. I googled the "303 P.O.V. and came across a separate forum where several people had tried it, but most found that it had some kind of delayed fire (i.e. the round would go off about 1 or 2 seconds after you pulled the trigger):(
Made me nervous so I backed down from that purchase.

It seems that the surplus, non-corrosive 303 ammo supply has dried up. It may be that there just was't much produced in the first place. It's too bad, the rifle is very accurate, the recoil is very low, and it shoots a big bullet. It would make a great hunting rifle.:thumbup:

Thanks for the link.
 
Just clean it every time you use it and have fun. There is tons of that old cordite 3303 ammo around here and is used at the range all the time.
 
Shoot it, have fun and Windex is your friend!

Basically, if you treat a gun firing corrosive surplus ammo, the same way you would a black powder muzzle loader, you'll not have any problems.
 
It should be ok, just make sure you clean it right after you're done shooting! My ex-stepdad had an M-1 garand that he didn't clean right away, when he got it out to clean it, rust literally fell out. The whole thing was trash.
 
Ok, the corrosive part is not a problem if you clean the rifle, but have any of you used this specific ammo. The "hang fire" still has me a little skeptical.

Thanks


Mike, go to www.aimsurplus.com and take a look. They currently have some corrosive .303 ammo @ $6.95 for 32 rounds. If you can find some Enfield stripper clips they would be nice to have. These AIM Surplus folks are good people to do business with. I've bought ammo from them several times (delivered to my door, of course), and always with complete satisfaction. They put out a nice, small sale brochure about twice or three times a year, so you may want to get on their mailing list. The surplus weapons they sell are among the best on the market in my opinion, too. :thumbup:
 
Bowie Mike
if your getting hang fires and the rifle is sound it means that some where in the ammos history it was stored improperly and the priming compound is braking down. aside from hang fires you usually end up with a few dud's . it raises the pucker factor when you get a click when you pull the trigger and no bang and then wonder if its gonna go off in your face when you get the bolt half open
 
I got my first Lee-Enfield in 1985, and the first ammo I shot in it was Pakistani Mk.VII Ball as sold by AIM. It was total crap, with many hangfires and several duds. The current batch on the market is about as bad, by most accounts. I haven't wasted any more of my money on it since that first batch.

It's more expensive, but Hornady, Remington, Federal, Winchester, Sellier & Bellot, and Prvi Partisan all make good quality new production .303 British. It's non-corrosive and reloadable.
 
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