Could you please reinstate the Rep Point system

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I think that whatever adds to people's enjoyment when being on Bladeforums is a good thing. It seemed that far more people enjoyed the system than didn't.

If it comes back the way it was it will definitely not work the way Spark envisioned it. If it comes back in a highly modified form, it may not be what the bulk of the membership would like it to be.

My vote would be to bring it back as a way for people to have a more enjoyable experience, and letting members know not to take it too seriously, rather than in some way restricting its use. Just my opinion.
 
IF it's ever brought back(hopefully not), make it so each person can decide if they wish to participate or not.

Being able to turn the feature off would be great.

The thing is, you can't control this rep point nonsense. People are always going to abuse it.

I go on several forums daily, and the ones with the most complaints are those that have a reputation feature, and folks complain about that feature all the time, just like they did here.
The ones without, seem to run just great, with none of the hassles the above mentioned have.

Leaves it wide open for cliques to gang up on individuals, and trolls to hit people anonymously, plus like I said before, it's kind of like the third grade, lets give a gold star to the class kiss up. :barf:

It's pretty sad when people have to judge their own self worth by how many "chiclets" they have.


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One positive thing is that it helped to keep the weaponwomans of the forum in line. I suppose it also encourages people to post useful and humorous things. Not for the green squares per se, but for the positive comments associated with them.

One way to prevent abuse is to simply make it clear that asking for rep points will not be tolerated. Threads and messages asking for them will be deleted or locked and similarly asking to hit people with negative rep points will not be tolerated.


Toward the end we had the option of disabling rep points and also seeing who sent them. This solved the general objections to them and the hit-and-run anonymous reds.
 
I suggest that we use little green and red Ren Heads instead of squares.
 
i dont think you can "heavily modify" it

it is inherent to the forum software.

on and off with some subtle changes

its all fun and games til someone loses an eye

:D
 
I liked the idea of turning it off. I'm not into the 'fun and games' portion of the forums. Many are, thats ok as long as I have the option not to participate. If I dont have that ,then I'll do what I did last time, I played elsewhere until a friend emailed me that it was changed.
 
Ryan8 said:
One positive thing is that it helped to keep the weaponwomans of the forum in line. I suppose it also encourages people to post useful and humorous things. Not for the green squares per se, but for the positive comments associated with them.

One way to prevent abuse is to simply make it clear that asking for rep points will not be tolerated. Threads and messages asking for them will be deleted or locked and similarly asking to hit people with negative rep points will not be tolerated.


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What that really means is anybody that says anything you or your friends don't like is going to get bombarded with bad reputation points.

Why shouldn't people be allowed to speak their mind withing the boundaries of BFC rules without you people trying to stifle them?

Does everything have to be funny, inane, or pornographic to get good rep points?

That's just what I meant when I said they don't work. A very small percentage of people try to control what's said and done on the forum by giving everyone they don't like, or who says anything they don't think is funny, negative points.

Please don't think that it takes a neurosurgeon to figure out ways around blatant rep point whoring, or ganging up on someone.
You all share the same forum, and there's PM's and emails, to work out who to give negative and who to give positive points to, and who to ask for them.

And, I'd be willing to bet that within a few weeks of it being restored, you would all have huge blocks of green squares, again, without really doing anything to deserve them, and golly gee, but you didn't even have to whore for them, at least openly.:rolleyes:

Imagine that!!!!:barf:

Weepy woman, and those like her(trolls) are easily taken care of by banning. Do you really think she cares about negative reputation points? I seriously doubt it.
 
We got along fine before we had them, and we had constant complaints once we got them. Abuse is in the nature of a system like that. They became a major topic in themselves, instead of a background check.

Anybody who likes the little comments that came with them can get into the habit of emailing back and forth with their friends.

Bladeforums is like a school with lots of extracurricular activities, but when the jocks take over the school in the middle of the day, it interferes with the learning process.
 
Many users hide their email address, so the comments were a nice feature, the rep points are rather useless, so I'd say reinstate the former (and grant everybody, not just paying members, the right to view who sent a comment) while forgetting about the latter - if the forum software allows for such setup. The easier solution would be to display every user's email address.

But then many people wouldn't pay for a PM feature through which you cannot contact the vast majority of members anyway...
 
Ren the devils trailboss said:
...people were using it and having fun with it..
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The people who disliked it most were the Moderators and Spark who had to deal with all the complaints it caused.
 
Mike Hull said:
What that really means is anybody that says anything you or your friends don't like is going to get bombarded with bad reputation points.

Why shouldn't people be allowed to speak their mind withing the boundaries of BFC rules without you people trying to stifle them?
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No, it means that the trolls will receive them because they troll, not because of a disagreement of opinions. Take Sebenza4Ever or Weaponwoman for instance.

This tells people whether they're credible or not, or whether their contributions are worthwhile or not.

As I said, I'd like to see it against the rules for people to ask to bombard others with red.

Mike Hull said:
Does everything have to be funny, inane, or pornographic to get good rep points?
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No! I gave and received them for useful knife-related posts. In fact I don't see any reason why the system couldn't be modified so that they couldn't be given out in W&C or certain other forums.


Mike Hull said:
Please don't think that it takes a neurosurgeon to figure out ways around blatant rep point whoring, or ganging up on someone.
You all share the same forum, and there's PM's and emails, to work out who to give negative and who to give positive points to, and who to ask for them.
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You're making an assumption that people haven't learned from this and that we won't take it more seriously this time.

Mike Hull said:
And, I'd be willing to bet that within a few weeks of it being restored, you would all have huge blocks of green squares, again, without really doing anything to deserve them, and golly gee, but you didn't even have to whore for them, at least openly.
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Limit people to giving out just a few a day or less. They will be given out to worthwhile posts.

Mike Hull said:
Weepy woman, and those like her(trolls) are easily taken care of by banning. Do you really think she cares about negative reputation points? I seriously doubt it.
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Some of them seem to because of the way they complain about it.
 
The thing that seems wrong with a rep system on a site like this is places like the cove and whine and cheese and even community. This is a knife discussion website. People will get good rep points for posting nude pics in the pirates cove, but someone who answers a question in General Knife Discussion may not.

Plus as much as you say the system will not be abused, it still will be. If we reinstate a rule stating you are not allowed to ask for reppoints, then people will just do it off the forums.

The system will be abused no matter what. I say if you want those little green chiclets that bad, just keep them in your avatar like most of you have been doing. Frankly, I can't see how you guys can get so bent out of shape over it.
 
Icon of Sin said:
The thing that seems wrong with a rep system on a site like this is places like the cove and whine and cheese and even community. This is a knife discussion website. People will get good rep points for posting nude pics in the pirates cove, but someone who answers a question in General Knife Discussion may not.

Plus as much as you say the system will not be abused, it still will be. If we reinstate a rule stating you are not allowed to ask for reppoints, then people will just do it off the forums.

The system will be abused no matter what. I say if you want those little green chiclets that bad, just keep them in your avatar like most of you have been doing. Frankly, I can't see how you guys can get so bent out of shape over it.
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That's about the whole thing in a nutshell.:thumbup:
 
Ryan, rep points dont tell anybody if anyone is credible. Simply if they are popular.
 
There were some good things about the system, in the forums where it was used. It's customary on the net to avoid posting "that was a good post" -- it's generally considered a waste of bandwidth. Often the only way to get much response to your posts is to troll. It was nice to get comments or even just a green chiclet without any comment; it let you know somebody was reading your posts, made it clearer that posting is worthwhile. The worst thing about the system was a lot of people who deserved to get chiclets didn't get them because the people in the forums they hang out in never used the system.

I can think of possible solutions for some of the problems, but there's one I don't think can be solved: Bladeforums is really a number of distinct communities. When one person gets points for telling jokes in Forum A, and another person gets points for answering questions about knives in Forum B, and another doesn't get points for answering questions about knives in Forum C because nobody in that forum bothers clicking the button, and another gets points for being a good knifemaker, and another builds up a lot of points for other things and then starts making and selling knives -- and all those different kinds of points look exactly the same -- when somebody has a lot of green chiclets what does it mean?
 
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