Could YOU survive?

The question is too broad. My preferences will depend on where it is I’d have to survive. Summer in California and winter in Siberia will yield to0 different answers. Is it ice desert or sand? Forest or City? Too many choices:)

Having said that, here are my answers:
a. I will survive if I have 1 chance.
b. One vital item would be my brain.

Happy Trails…
 
Thomas Linton said:
The wilderness is the desert. I imagine you're dead.

I was never in one, the closest I came was spending some time in the states a few years back. I went for a walk in the early morning, it was what I would call hot, everyone else remarked it was chilly which should have been a sign. By lunchtime I had wandered far from where I was staying and found the temperature soaring way past 30. It never gets that hot here and the amount of water loss I experienced was very surprising. I would not have thought I needed any water for such a short trip being well hydrated before hand, live and learn.

But anyway from people who do live in the desert it can get fairly cold at night so a fire would be nice for heat and of course all the rest of the things a fire would do. There are also various types of woods in various deserts, some more so than others. So the basic problem would be getting some type of spark. If it is all sand dunes you are probably boned, but assuming there are clumps of trees and such I would imagine there would be rocks.

I would want to know a little about the enviroment in any case, as wood type alone would make a massive difference on what type of knife to bring. If you go to extremes, and really push the defination of "wilderness", survival on the open water is a pretty different senario. There is not a lot to burn even if you can make a fire readily. In the really far north, wood is really rare, even if you have a torch, unless you can burn snow and ice it isn't of much use, and oil lamps are commonly used.

-Cliff
 
Thomas Linton said:
What we experience guides our beliefs. Cody Lunden illustrates a Mora in his book 98.6 as his main survival tool. His "turf" is the desert Southwest. He doesn't have to deal with really severe cold or rainforest -- very little large timber at all. If he came from where Skammer (or Cliff) operates, I suspect that he would write a different book in some respects.


I actually met Cody during a foray he had to my area. Super nice guy BTW. We talked about the industry and all the different egos etc....

And yes he did come off the plane without shoes on. Fortunate for him it was summer here.

I bothered him to come back and do a winter show without shoes on. So far he avoids the issue ;) .

He is definately a 3 season southwest kinda guru no question.

Skam
 
with shelter from the elements almost always being the first priority in a survival situation, how about taking a space blanket or tarp?? fire is very important as well, but it would be difficult to build a fire if you are becoming hypothermic. a space blanket could be shade in the desert, shelter form wind/rain and reflect heat in the cold. as cliff mentioned, if 'wilderness' is open water, you're out of luck.
 
It will also depends on how many people you have around.
When I was about 14, my father took my uncle, brother, cousin and me for fishing in Kazakhstan on Ili river. It was a good experience - if you catch nothing, you eat nothing. There is not a person around you for 40 miles in radius, only river and steppes, if something happens to you, you can be in real live threatening danger.
There are no proper roads, so it would take about 4 hours before you get on a tarmac road from the river and then at least half an hour before you reach first village. There is nothing in those villages by the way, they rarely have telephone in such isolated places. There were too many poisonous snakes, scorpions and local shepherds warned us not to swim in the river because there were large catfish in the river that drowned sheep sometimes (do not know if it was true, but we tied ourselves to the rope when we swam in the river). But mainly we were worried about drug trafficking criminals (that place is notorious for wild growing drugs).
Our equipment was not sophisticated at all: one Lada car, one hand-made knife (2 mm thick blade, 15 cm long, very light and scary sharp), one axe, one shovel, pot, fuel stove (later we began cooking on fire), 2-3 plates, 5 spoons, (no forks, I remember this very well), fishing tackle for 5 people, one shotgun, warm clothing, tea, salt, sugar, pepper, pan of tomatoes, onions, garlic, 20 litres of beer, washing things (stopped using them probably on the second day). I guess this was nearly everything.
We slept in the car - there were too many snakes around to sleep in tents, plus we did not have any tents. It sounds uncomfortable, especially when there are 5 people in one vehicle, but when you get really tired it does not really matter, even though by the end we started sleeping in shifts (some sleep during the day and the other during the night). I was surprised I could go with little sleeping (up to 2 hours day, often none) for 7 days. We did not have any sleeping bags, but it would be really uncomfortable to sleep in them in the car, we wore jackets - easy and simple solution. We did not have coffee (it was quite a treat in Soviet times!), but I was quite awake during the night because of cold and was sweating during the day.
Sometimes we were not lucky, so we would have one fish for all of us for whole day. But I really had fun! I felt it was cool.
One day my father forgot to switch car's lights off and then next day we had flat battery. I remember how my father was upset, but we managed to push Lada up the hill and then down the hill switching the engine on. We got stuck in sand as well a few times, but then father deflated tires and we had much less troubles.
Then we lost matches. No problem, we started fire from cigarette burner until we met a farmer who gave us matches.
Since we did not have another knife, I learnt cleaning fish without it: you scale it using a wooden stick with sharp edge and then rip the stomach with a sharp wooden stick. I remember how father tried to bake a fish in ashes - it was complete rubbish!!!
I also remember how we found a dam and caught a few carps by hands!
During that trip I learnt quite a lot. Since that time I have a feeling: if I find a river with some fish in it, I can stay there as long as it is necassary.
If I had to go there again, I think I would like to have 4-wheel drive car with air conditioning that can pull itself out if gets stuck, meths stove, rifle with sniper scope, some NATO military rations, a few good knives, satellite telephone, desinfecting tissues, more fruits and vegetables, juice, good cognac, TV and fridge. Yes, I got softer and enjoy civilised live! :D
 
Absolutely. First and foremost, we need to bring one heck of a possitive attitude with us.
 
In my situation i'm assuming the woods in my area.

A pot with a big metal handle. Break the handle off and sharpen part of it with a rock and you have a knife. The pot can still be used for boiling (purification) water. Find some kind of string, be it a shoe lace, a strip of fabric from your clothing, or some vine rope, and use that with your improvised knife to make a bowdrill. That covers knife/fire/water purification/cooking pot or pan all with one item and what you can find. :)
 
thats a hard question, throughout my years at school my teachers have asked the class a similiar question. i never knew which item i would actually bring, looks like some people agree that some kind of firestarter would be best.
 
shpshooter said:
In my situation i'm assuming the woods in my area.

A pot with a big metal handle. Break the handle off and sharpen part of it with a rock and you have a knife. The pot can still be used for boiling (purification) water. Find some kind of string, be it a shoe lace, a strip of fabric from your clothing, or some vine rope, and use that with your improvised knife to make a bowdrill. That covers knife/fire/water purification/cooking pot or pan all with one item and what you can find. :)

If it's "the woods" in your "area," you can probably find plenty of beer cans for containers (and bottles for cutting tools). (Hunters = beer containers. Boaters = MORE beer containers. :D )
 
My one item would be a metal pot to boil water with. Every else is a lot easier to make or get it the wild.
 
Thomas Linton said:
If it's "the woods" in your "area," you can probably find plenty of beer cans for containers (and bottles for cutting tools). (Hunters = beer containers. Boaters = MORE beer containers. :D )

You get what I meant though. ;)
 
Myakka said:
My one item would be a metal pot to boil water with. Every else is a lot easier to make or get it the wild.


That's my thought. The two biggest things that kill people that get lost are the enviroment and thirst. In order to cool myself down I need clean potable water and shade and I can keep myself warm enough with things that I find most of the time (leaves, pine needles, ect), though a fire definately helps and is a good moral booster. If I have potable water I could easily last a good week, even without food. With no water even in ideal conditions I wouldn't last the three-four days it takes on average to find someone lost, especialy if i'm hiking around looking for the trail myself.
 
Hard question.

A good fixed blade, probably. But Myakka has a point with his metal pot thing. It's easier to improvise a knife than a pot.

Friction fire is relatively easy with cord and a knife, but without those two, it's endless... making cord, making a blade, cutting the notch... rhhhaaaa....

Hard question.

Knife, fire, poncho, pot. The holy square (tm) ;)

Cheers,

David
 
Moine said:
Hard question.

A good fixed blade, probably. But Myakka has a point with his metal pot thing. It's easier to improvise a knife than a pot.

Friction fire is relatively easy with cord and a knife, but without those two, it's endless... making cord, making a blade, cutting the notch... rhhhaaaa....

Hard question.

Knife, fire, poncho, pot. The holy square (tm) ;)

Cheers,

David

And he should know. He's "lost somewhere in the Alps." :D
 
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