Council Tool Velvicut Hudson Bay Axe- First Impressions (pic heavy)

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Council Tool Velvicut Hudson Bay Axe- First Impressions
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This is an initial review\first impression of Council Tool's long awaited Velvicut Hudson Bay Axe. I had hoped to get some outside photos but unfortunately, the weather here in the mountains was just too blustery to get it done.

I do plan to take this axe into the wilderness in the coming days and give it a serious workout, so look for my full review here sometime next week.​


Specifications

Drop Forged 5160 Steel, RC 50-54
Grade "A" Hickory Handle
Length- 24 inches (this one measured in at 22.5 inches)
Weight without sheath- 43.5 ounces (as measured on a digital postal scale)
Weight with sheath- 48.5 ounces
Price- $129.95​




The axe arrived in its own box within the shipping box
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Opened
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The box contained the axe, sheath, booklet with some history about Council Tool and axes\maintenence tips, and a little note about the Velvicut Hudson Bay. The axe also came shipped with a rubber gasket edge guard which actually fits quite well and could be used in place of the sheath if needed in an emergency.


The first thing that suprised me is how short this axe is, roughly 22.5 inches compared to Council's advertised length of 24 inches. This gives the axe a unique feel and balance, almost like a Gransfors Bruks Small Forest Axe on steroids. Maybe a better comparison is that it's like the new Ray Mears Gransfors Bruks Wilderness Axe. The dimensions and head weight are very similar, so I'll be curious to see how it performs when I get it into the back country this week
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The axe did indeed come with a Grade "A" hickory handle, and the grain direction, tightness of the grain and overall quality is excellent
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Though not fully visible in the photo above, the alignment is very good, though I wouldn't call it excellent. It is better than most Wetterlings' I've seen though, so I think that speaks for itself.​



The profile, as seen here, is excellent and looks to be optimal for both chopping and splitting, though only a live field test will truly decide this or not. Council decided to go with a traditional metal and wood wedge as opposed to their usual single aluminum wedge to hang the head, and I am glad for this.
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The wood of the handle does protude out of the eye, adding extra security against having the handle come loose, another plus. I also like that the hammer poll is ground flat and polished, making it easy to pound in tent stakes, etc.
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The edge was convexed at the factory, and though it came much sharper than any axe I've bought from Council before, it still isn't as sharp as Gransfors Bruks usually come (shaving sharp). The good news is that the edge is practically done, so only light file or stone work is needed to get it optimal. I do recommend to Council that they invest in a belt sander, as a few passes on even a cheap belt sander would make this axe shave hairs. The axe, in it's present form, is what I would consider knife sharp, though slightly dull.
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The axe comes with a very nice brown leather belt sheath, which includes a buckle on the backside for more attachment options. I like that the leather covers the axe when snapped shut as it adds additional weather protection.
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One complaint is that the belt loops should be made wider, as they barely fit most normal sized men's belts.
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Size comparison next to a Wetterling's made 25 inch long Husqvarna Multi-Purpose Axe​
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Size comparison between a 26.5 inch Council Tool standard Hudson Bay Axe (far right) and a 19.5 inch Wetterlings Large Hunting Axe (far left)​
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FINAL SUMMARY


My initial impression of this axe is excellent. It looks and feels like quality, and the balance feels very good in the hand. The steel that Council uses for the Velvicut line, 5160, is quite revered in the knife community for having outstanding toughness along with good edge retention. Council feels so strongly that this axe will last that they guarantee the head for life, no kidding!

My main nitpicks are that the axe didn't come shaving sharp, a standard for Council's closest competitor Gransfors Bruks. The other issue is the size of the belt loops being slightly small on the sheath. The hickory handle could use some more cleaning up near the head-handle junction as it is a bit rough for an axe of this price, but the rest of the handle is excellent and also quite comfortable. In all fairness, Council is new to the field of high-end boutique axes, and this is a first production run, so I expect that improvements will be made over the coming weeks as they ship the next run out. Council has outstanding customer service and do read these forums, so they do take forum comments seriously when dealing with product issues.

Aside from anything else, we now have a high quality American-made bushcraft axe, and this alone is exciting. The odds were against us here in the bushcraft community that this would actually come to fruition, but here it is. I want to thank all the members here who emailed and called Council to help make this happen, and to Council for being open-minded enough to actually put this idea into production. I look for forward to reviewing this axe in the field over the coming days and will report back with my results. Cheers, CW​
 
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Great write up, thanks. Do you plan on putting any finish on the head? It looks like it might rust up quickly if left unfinished.
 
Great write up, thanks. Do you plan on putting any finish on the head? It looks like it might rust up quickly if left unfinished.

Thanks Trailmaker. Only thing I plan to do is keep it coated with mineral oil. It'll probably develop a natural patina over time which is fine.
 
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Looking forward to the performance review. You have some good ones to compare it to. Thanks for the info.
 
thanks for taking the time to post and for the info. can't wait to see the field review.
unless the thing falls apart in the field when you test it, i believe i am going to have to pick one of those up. it sure is nice to see such a high-end buscraft axe stamped "USA":)

and thanks to council tool for their efforts...
 

The axe comes with a very nice brown leather belt sheath, which includes a buckle on the backside for more attachment options. I like that the leather covers the axe when snapped shut as it adds weather protection for the excellent but rust-prone 5160 grade steel.
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One complaint is that the belt loops should be made wider, as they barely fit most normal sized men's belts.[​

Nice sturdy shealth but it feels a bit "over-engineered". I've really come to appreciate single snap shealths.
As for belt loop, I wouldn't use hang it from belt that way so I'd say it's not really a problem.

Bit seems wider, or at least "flatter" than on GB, but to be honest that's probably better for splitting.​
 
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Thanks for the review....Looks like one to get...Made in USA even better !
 
Very nice first look. I am considering one of these because I like the hudson bay pattern. I certainly do not need one though.
I have the excellent Husky slightly different than shown.
I must say the Husky is an excellent all around axe for the money.

Also I am disappointed in the actual stated handle size.
Come on Council 22.5 inches is not 24 inches state the actual size please not the size before trimming.
Some might like the 22.5 bur I would rather have a longer handle even if only a few more inches.

Best made has their knockoff version of this axe listed as 26.5inches.
I like the sheath and can live with it.

So My question to you is do you think this pricey axe will do any typical chores for this size axe better? My experience says maybe a little better for splitting.
Thanks for the review.
 
Steve, Dusty, Bearhunter, thanks! Might head up into the mountains today and give the axe a workout.

Cheers, CW
 
Very nice first look. I am considering one of these because I like the hudson bay pattern. I certainly do not need one though.
I have the excellent Husky slightly different than shown.
I must say the Husky is an excellent all around axe for the money.

Also I am disappointed in the actual stated handle size.
Come on Council 22.5 inches is not 24 inches state the actual size please not the size before trimming.
Some might like the 22.5 bur I would rather have a longer handle even if only a few more inches.

Best made has their knockoff version of this axe listed as 26.5inches.
I like the sheath and can live with it.

So My question to you is do you think this pricey axe will do any typical chores for this size axe better? My experience says maybe a little better for splitting.
Thanks for the review.

Cattledog, yes, the handle length was rather suprising. Admittedly, the axe does feel a little more handy at this length, so I'm curious to see how it will do in the field. As for the head design, I think it is excellent and will be a great splitter and chopper. Definitely a better splitter than Gransfors or Wetterlings axes.
 
Nice review and comparison. I wonder if the keenness of the edge (or lack of) isn't intentional. I have read the opinion that the sharp European edges are designed for the mostly soft woods in that region. In any case, a minute or two on the belt grinder would remedy that. I want one!
 
Nice review and comparison. I wonder if the keenness of the edge (or lack of) isn't intentional. I have read the opinion that the sharp European edges are designed for the mostly soft woods in that region. In any case, a minute or two on the belt grinder would remedy that. I want one!
Seriously I've never heard of any application where sharp edge would be detrimental. That said razor sharp edge isn't really important and you can generally get it with some stropping. As long as you don't need extensive reprofiling, an edge is good to go to me.
 
Seriously I've never heard of any application where sharp edge would be detrimental. That said razor sharp edge isn't really important and you can generally get it with some stropping. As long as you don't need extensive reprofiling, an edge is good to go to me.
Yeah I really don't care if an axe comes sharp as long as the main bevel is ground correctly. I'm gonna have to sharpen it several times in it's life, might as well begin with a sharpening. :D

I'm a little disappointed this axe is so short. I need a good 3/4 axe but will pass on this and maybe get the best made version.
 
The grain looks good in the pictures of the butt of the handle but when viewed from the side I see a lot of scalloping. Maybe it's not a big deal but I've been told this is where the grain is "breaking out" and creates weak spots.
 
Hey Colorado,
You gone beaver?

Still around Cattledog :)

Sorry to everyone for my delayed field report. Apparently, the axe I was sent has a handle that was indeed supposed to be 24" long, not the 22.5" that I received. I got one of the very first production axes and have advised Council about the handle length issue. They have taken note and are working on it as we speak. With a normal handle length, this axe has great potential, as the overall head shape is excellent. Another issue they are working on is getting the edge profile sharper, which was another issue on mine. I hope to hear back from them by next week about these things and will post a final review once this is done. thanks!
 
Still around Cattledog :)

Sorry to everyone for my delayed field report. Apparently, the axe I was sent has a handle that was indeed supposed to be 24" long, not the 22.5" that I received. I got one of the very first production axes and have advised Council about the handle length issue. They have taken note and are working on it as we speak. With a normal handle length, this axe has great potential, as the overall head shape is excellent. Another issue they are working on is getting the edge profile sharper, which was another issue on mine. I hope to hear back from them by next week about these things and will post a final review once this is done. thanks!
Did you send yours back to the factory?
 
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