Courier Des Bois / Voyageur Style Knife For Actual Use

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Hi everyone,

I am slowly working on building a somewhat period correct kit using modern reproductions for the Canadian Courier Des Bois / Voyageurs, but am hung up on the knife.

I intend on actually using the gear for stuff from hunting game from deer all the way to rabbits and grouse, to camping/bushcraft, so some gear will be more modern such as a stainless steel pot over a period correct tin pot, etc. So while not exactly reenacting, its more of a traditional style kit if that makes sense.

The intended uses will be for dressing and skinning game, and wood carving (i have a snow/nealley hudson bay axe for wood, and currently carry an opinel no 7 or a buck stockman if more detailed carving ends up being needed or if i dont want to dull my tbd beltknife.

So, back to the knife, from what i can tell it does not appear that the french used butcher knifes such as the old hickory, and instead used more of a scalper design. As well, i found modern reproduction copies of the french trade knifes from Chris Slinger and dean olivers Courier Des Bois knifes (5” and a 3.5” version), all of which fall towards the top of my price range (~50usd). At the moment, i wonder about the roughly 5” blade length for processing small game, and to an extent deer. As well, with the french trade knife i am concerned abit about what appears to be a lack of belly on the knife, but i dont know, if this is what was carried it must have some use. The 3 1/2” version of the CDB knife however seems to be alittle small. Who knows, i might end up getting the trade knife now, and the 3 1/2er later.

So, in short, i was wondering about the historical accurateness of the dean oliver Courier Des Bois knifes, if any of you guys have used these knifes and have feedback good or bad, and how well you think they may work for my intended purposes, or if for the knife i should get something else entirely. (i currently carry a mora classic 2 and along with the folder, but i dont intend on using the folder for game, as i also use it as a dinner knife when eating, and dont want to deal with cleaning all the crevices in the woods. The french trade knife profile appears similar to the mora, albeit longer, and without the slight drop point from what i can tell.

Note ive never actually skinned a deer, never had the desire to do anything with it, but in the past year ive taken up leatherworking, and think it would be cool to learn to tan the hides and try to make something out of it.

Hope you guys could make something out of this rambling, if you have any other recomendations, please let me know. Ill post my current gear down below so you know what i mean by being kind of reenactmentish.
 
If they look like this you're on the right track.

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that would be the hudson bay trade knife, which personally, seems way oversized for me, more of a food processing knife for camp use, versus something to stick on my belt.


What I Have
Wool Clothes (mostly LL Bean, but big bill pants)
Pathfinder 2qt Steel Pot (dont want to deal with maintenance of tin)
Ferro Rod (will be getting flint and steel at some point, but i am also adeptish with friction methods)
Stainless steel cup (again, easier than tin)
Stainless steel 1l bottle (not period at all, but I dont care).
S&N hudson bay axe
Maple splint pack basket (BA is just too expensive)
Oilcloth tarp made from a bedsheet
Wool blankets (surplus, i also have traditional cold weather backpacking sleeping bags that i use when it gets real nippley out)
Wooden Bear Paw style Snowshoes.
Modern compass with declination adjustor and everything
 
HB called it the camp knife, I think, and I guessed it was for butchering and light chopping in a fixed camp. Just a guess, though.

Does Opinel make straight-backed kitchen knives? That might not be unsuitable.
 
Well I guess just pick a French or English trade knife that you like. No one here is going to worry about it.
 
Didnt think of that, and none that are a good length that i see, although it is an idea ill use by looking at other knife companies.
 
Courier des bois? Coureur would be mor appropriate... ;):)
Runner rather than carrier?

And I don't know when the HB camp knife came out, but it was probably after the heyday of the coureurs des bois.
 
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They carried a lot of straight backed "scalpers," basically the most common pattern of kitchen knife back in France during that period. Also folding knives with out backsprings (friction folders) by the thousands. Given the numbers imported, they must have considered these fairly disposable. I don't know the makers you mentioned but if you can post photos of their knives I can give my own opinion of them. As for blade shape, skill trumps the knife every time.
 
Runner rather than carrier?

And I don't know when the HB camp knife came out, but it was probably after the heyday of the coureurs du bois. (Did I get the preposition right, Jolipapa Jolipapa ?)
The general thought in fur trade circles is the Hudson Bay Camp Knife came out fairly late during the beaver years. Some of these knives were found on a Confederate blockade runner!
 
I had my preposition wrong (googled it).
I like the kijuhn French, unless that's a scandi grind.

But with your flexibility, why not just get what you like?
 
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Take a look at the Dexter-Russell 4 1/2” fish knife. It’s not exactly what you are looking for, but it should fit right in and work very well for you.
 
It sounds like you aren't afraid if doing a little modifying.
The Old Hickory 8" slicers are about 20 dollars at my local general store. This one has been cut down to 5" but could just as easily be cut down further if that is your preference. Excuse the other blades as this photo was taken for something else.
Though the steel is not super hard,it holds and acceptable edge for a woods knife. Easy to resharpen and throws sparks off the spine. I have dressed hogs with this knife,cut bait kn the trap line, meat and sausage at a BBQ and is the knife I take on winter outings when a careless set down is a fast ticket to a knifeless life.

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Runner rather than carrier?

And I don't know when the HB camp knife came out, but it was probably after the heyday of the coureurs des bois.
In the current language, yes, but back in the 18th century "courier" meant " runner" and as well " messenger".

Dan.
Rather wanderer/explorer... Coureur (des bois) refers to parcourir rather than courir (running), like un bruit court la campagne (a rumour going around) Then followed the voyageurs.
In this case I guess it is just a typo...
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