Cracked Handle Questions

I can't resist this - but a few months back I went to the pharmacy and bought some clove oil ( used for toothaches ) having heard that japanese swords were cared for with clove oil. I later found out the proper oil was a mineral oil base to which just enough clove oil was added to make it smell nice. But before I learned that I applied it to a couple villagers with wood scabbards. The oil will eat finished surfaces, but wiping the blade with the clove oil and sheathing it a few times left the villagers smelling wonderful, like a beautiful girl wearing Chanel No. 22 ( so maybe you like Chanel No. 5 better ). Or the smell of Hoppe's No, 9 on a side by side. These knives, even the villagers, seem to me to deserve a little extra care when they aren't being used hard.

Yvsa, lets get something together for Uncle Bill - Hiamalayan Imports No. 18 all purpose khukuri oil! I'm half serious on this. LOL

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How about this oil:

INGREDIENTS:
Cold pressed almond oil; Grapeseed oil;
Avocado oil; Lecithin; Natural Vitamin E; Sweet Sesame oil; Essential oils of Bergamot, Jasmine, and Sandalwood.

The bottle I have says $7.50 for 6 ounces. Now where do I get in touch with the Kama Sutra Company?

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Steven,

I think neatsfoot oil is made from the hooves of cattle. The MSDS from two makers brands (Lexol and Kiwi) do not indicate petroleum distillates. However, petroleum distillates may be added to some products to increase the penetration rate.

You have a good idea there. The oil from neatsfoot oil is likely closely related to the natural oils in water buffalo horn.

Does neatsfoot oil penetrate readily into horn? Also, does the handle feel more slippery after application?

Rusty, the lotion you mentioned is making me hungry. Is it safe for humn consumption?


Will
 
Will,

Looking at the ingredients, I would say that the majority are ok for human consumption, but there are a few that I am uncertain of and not the least, what conditions was this oil prepared under? I would think that if it were meant for human consumption, it would indicate this on the label.

Just my professional opinion.

Harry
 
I went to VHD's thoughtfully provided link:

http://www.kamasutra.com

and it does indeed say that it's oils are edible ( " edible loving oils... " ). As far as what it does to water- buffalo hide sheathed scabbards, you'll have to ask Yvsa toward the end of this next weeek.

[This message has been edited by Rusty (edited 02-06-2000).]
 
This thread has gotten too weird.

I should have known that's what would have happened when Uncle Bill left Rusty in charge.
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I'm sure if I up my medication dose it will all be fine!

-Dave

[This message has been edited by Dave K (edited 02-07-2000).]
 
Remembered something and looked it up, hence the following quote from half a year ago.

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Rusty posted:

"Hanuman arrived this morning, was unwrapped, inspected. Tonight as I was about to clean the papers he was wrapped in out of the truck, I noticed that Bill had wrapped Hanuman in the Entertainment section of the Reno paper, which bore the banner "GROUP SEX". The article beneath the banner turned out to be about the "Lifestyles Reno Rendezvous" http://www.lifestyles.org being in town at the Reno Hilton July 7-11. Yes, Bill, Hanuman really is into monkey business already."

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Anyway, Hanuman does not need to be wiped down with Kama Sutra oil. He's up to enough monkey business as it is.

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Providing links is the least I can do. I've been shamed by some of my fellow forumites who always remember to thank you guys for endlessly providing excellent information, where I do not. So, thank you for always lending me your time and knowledge. I should warn you Rusty, that not all of Kama Sutras oils are edible. I own a bottle of edible oil (chcolate mint in case you were wondering) and I have sold their products before. They have a line of just edible oils which I belive is their most popular, they also have a line of perfume oils, and various other things.

- D

[This message has been edited by Vampire Hunter D (edited 02-07-2000).]
 
That's OK Rusty, I think you are doing a fine job in fact.

I also think that I am finally beginning to lose my grasp of the English language after all this time.

Either that or I am just running out of brain cells, and language skills aren't the problem at all...
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-Dave
 
Will, I'd also always thought that neatsfoot oil was made from hooves, but according to SecondWind Products, a major distributor of neatsfoot oil, and I'm quoting, "Neatsfoot oil is a blend of animal fats and petroleum distillates." Also, Picard Chemical Company, a manufacturer of neatsfoot oil, says in its literature that "products that use animal fats include ... neatsfoot oil." I think perhaps the confusion comes from our apples-and-oranges terminology in that the composition of a hoof includes a number of organic compounds into which the hoof must be broken down before being used, just the way that many other raw products have to be processed. Obviously, neatsfoot oil is not simply ground-up hooves. And you're right about petroleum distillates helping penetration -- this was verified by university research.

However, all that really matters is that neatsfoot oil works.



[This message has been edited by Steven F (edited 02-07-2000).]
 
I finally gave in to Hanuman's pleading, and gave him and his tools and scabbard ( wood, steel, and leather a good coat of the KS oil last nighr. After all, as he pointed out, the scabbard IS covered in Black Leather!

To bring this back to the subject, though Hanuman's handle hasn't cracked, his smile does seem a bit broader this morning.

That reminds me that I haven't taken my morning medications.

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[This message has been edited by Rusty (edited 02-07-2000).]
 
As frustrating as it is to have a crack in a new toy I think that it adds chacater to it. Whenever you do something beyind the normal scope of oiling and cleaning I feel that you create a bond with your kukri.

Rusty... Wouldn't you be smiling if you had just been oiled down? Btw--- The way this topic is headed is becoming really "cracked"...

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Steven,

Thanks for the info. I tried neatsfoot oil on one of my handles. The film I left on the handle was absorbed by morning. As pointed out, it restored the shine on the handle.

Will
 
Where would be a good place to start looking for neatsfoot oil? Shoe repair, hardware store, etc.
I know this has been discussed before, but is mink oil the recommended product on this forum for the scabbards?

Thanks.
 
Try Looking at a tack store, or riding supply store. Try looking at your local farmers store. Look up horse riding on the web... see what happens.

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I had a pair of very tough boots, and now it's been a year. I used mink oil on them about once a week and I always wore them. Now when I take them off the top part of the boot folds over. Knowing this I wasn't sure if I should use mink oil on my sheath. Although you might want to try using it on just the belt attachment of the frog. It should loosen it up and make it better for carrying.

- D
 
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Jon:
Uncle Bill uses plain old KIWI shoe polish. Some use a product called Sno-seal. I found a simiar product called Camp-dry that also seems to work well. Just remeber that whatever keeps the moisture out will also keep it in. That's one reason that holes drilled in the bottom of the scabbard to let the water out has been suggested. I did that to my Ganga Ram and drilled right through the chape.

Any of the oils will probably soften the leather over a long period of time. The oil would be excellent for the frogs as has been suggested.

I have noticed that the leather used for the scabbards differs into 3 types. One is the beautiful shrunken water buffalo that has a very nice grain and is fairly thick.
Another one is just the plain water buffalo leather that ha a bit of a grain and is fairly thin. The water buffalo leather is Very Tough and I don't know if it is the material or the tanning process or both. This leather takes a nice polish with the KIWI.
The last one still has me puzzled as I haven't figured out whether it is almost rawhide or is rawhide. This leather doesn't take polish like KIWI very well. I have some Feiblings Edge Dressing used for the edge on leather shoe soles and it makes a nice foundation for a polish like KIWI on this type of leather.
This is what is on my 18" AK scabbard. I feel that this type even though it may be a tad thinner than the others is no doubt the toughest one and is less likely to suffer effects from hard abrasion.

I think Pala was aked the question as to how he kept his Lee Enfield from rusting and also his scabbard from deteriorating when he served in the military.
The answer to his rifle was, "I cleaned it and I cleaned it!!"
The answer to the scabbard was,"I polished it and I polished it!!"
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