Cracked Handle

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Gaoler

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I've read the posts about using epoxy to repair a cracked handle; where can I find some kind of syringe to "insert" the epoxy?
The drug store seems logical, but aren't there laws on who can buy them?
 
Yikes - I'm coming closer to knowing some of this by personal knowlege than I want to think about, ( I'm on oral diabetic medication ) and Harry/Kozak would know his local laws, but he lives in Canada.

I'm under the impression there are devices much like hypodermic and intravenous needles that are for commercial or craft usage. I've seen cookbooks recommend injection of a marinade type thing into roasts. But I wouldn't bet the books weren't from the James Beard era when things were looser and you could buy that stuff at feed and veterinary stores. Even today, urban Southern California and rural cow county Nevada are of significantly different cultures.

Someone will have some answers
 
Gaoler.
... some kind of syringe to "insert" the epoxy ...
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Why do you need syringe? I guess it is to ensure that every cracked surface is being epoxied properly.

There are few types of HI Khukuri handles:
  1. Buffalo Horn Handle.
  2. Wood Handle.
  3. Deer Horn Handle.
  4. Brass/Silver handle.[/list=a]I have a cracked Buffalo horn handle & I found out that this handle is hollow at least near the buttcap - if that part is cracked, I guess it is not strong enought to epoxy that cracked area only - I guess we have to fill the hollow with epoxy or any cement type of product first. I believe it is easier to epoxy wood handle due to it's solid state.

    NEPAL HO!

    [This message has been edited by mohd (edited 05-09-2000).]
 
Check your local pharmacy to see if they have oral syringes in the 2.5 to 5 millilitre size or smaller. These cannot be used for intravenous injection as needles will not fit. This will be a one time use syringe so make sure you prepare enough epoxy to go in the syringe.

By the way, there should not be any legal problems with using oral syringes, but check with your local pharmacist, to make sure.

Hope this helps...



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Harry

Toujours l'audacite!
 
Gaoler
My veterinarian gives us syringes to administer medication to our pets(no needle)they come in diferent sizes.
If you use one you will have to trash it when done ,you won't be able to clean it.Use the applicator that comes with the glue or if the crack is thin then dip a pin in it and let it run off the pin into the crack
Be neat tape it off if you think your going to get sloppy.You'll be glade you took the extra steps that stuff gets all over.Good luck.

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Ray
 
I guess the rules are different in parts of the country where there is a problem with heroin addicts or whatever but we order syringes with needles all the time. If you do an internet search on veterinary supply you will find many places that sell them. We usually have several different sizes on hand. We have six dogs, one cat, seven dairy goats (with one due to kid today) plus lots of poultry that we don't usually inject. Whether or not you need one to fix your handles is a different story.
 
I guess it depends on the type of epoxy you're using. With the epoxy I used to fix 2 cracked horn handles, I just mixed it, pressed it into the cracks until they were filled, wiped the excess epoxy off the handle & "evened" the expoxy in the cracks, let the expoxy setup, finished. This was a "slow hardening" epoxy, which gave me time to do the above.
 
I've repaired cracked handles using the same technique as Jon. Just work the epoxy in, let it harden, then lightly sand and polish the area. Also, I use masking tape to cover all but the part of the handle that I'm working on -- mainly because I'm something of a klutz and my repair jobs tend to get messy.

Regarding the use of a syringe, it seems to me that it would be very difficult to use an epoxy in a syringe considering the thickness of most epoxy mixes. At any rate, let us know how your repair turn out.
 
Thanks guys. I'll check around. In Kalifornia, there's a Business and Professions code that covers possession of
hypoderics. Here in the PRK,(Peoples Republic of Kalifornia), there's a law against just about everything.
I feel for you Rusty. My Dad had to take shots all his adult life for diabetes. He had a couple of glass syringes and I can
remember the prescription label on the box of the "spare".
My best to you all.
 
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I guess livin' in Oklahoma has some benefits.
I have bought needles and syringes at the local drug store for puttin' wallpaper paste in bubbles in wallpaper.
I imagine that if I asked for several there might be questions.
I have about 20 syringes and needles in the cabinet for my weekly shot.
They are 1cc, 26 gauge, 3/8" needles for just under the skin use.
A person ight be able to use the ones I have for super glue, but they are much to fine for epoxy.
A veterinarian supply or country supply store might be able to supply some big enough for that application, but then the needles may be to big to get down in the cracks.



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The hardy adventurer just drank from a stream he thought was pure glacier fed water not knowing that upstream was being used by a herd of yaks as a giant bidet.

I said he was hardy, not smart.:-)

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Reader's Indigestion has an article on the Philly PA clean needle program that has been exempted by state law from the other state laws.

Briefly the idea is to keep the people disease free til there is an opening in treatment.


1)So far they have quintupled the money for rehab, but still have room for only 4% of those asking for rehab.

2)The numbers are slippery, but Philly and a couple Canadian studies indicate a disease rate triple that of the street.

3)And those who really want to stay safe manage to do so better with the free needles available.

In short, even in Philly, it takes 2 or more state dollars to justify getting 1 federal dollar. In the meantime, you could get twice the bang for a thin dime spent in the right place at the right time at the neighborhood level as the $3 bucks of state/federal aid. But the first thing the state and feds do is to preempt local action. Mumble...

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When the revolution comes, maybe HI can swing the contract for Guillotine blades. (Clarified, I mean for use on politicians, not actual life forms.)

[This message has been edited by Rusty (edited 05-10-2000).]
 
What are or is the best epoxy for horn or wood. By the way, Break Free clp spray works great for the blades, handles, and scabbards.
 
I get my syringes from the local farm supply store. Really I don't use too many. The ones there have very large diameter needles and I would not want to inject myself with it.

For deep cracks I use a 30 minute epoxy that I picked up at the hardware store. It is quite runny and works well with the syringe.

I recently used it on reject 15" Ang Khola handle . The Himalayan hot melt had cracked and I had pried most of it out with a small screwdriver. I also had the handle loose to about half way down the blade. I injected the epoxy in till it started coming out the cracks. So far it has held with heavy use.

I have also worked the epoxy into a crack as others have suggest. It works great for tight or shallow cracks.

Epoxy I have played with:

Steely
Great for building a complete new bolster section or buttcap. I also used some of this stuff to hold a keyway in place on a 3600 RPM blower. Its still there.

Home Hardware Brand (30 minute)
Fairly running and decent working time. Works great with a syringe. Little heat generation.

Lepages (5 minute)
Poor bond strength compared to others.

JB Weld
Shallow cracks or loose butt caps (wrong color). Quite strong.

JB Weld 5 minute
Use the regular stuff, its nowhere as bonding or durable.

Accuglas
Works well with a syringe but it did not stand up to use. At the time I was trying it, I put it on a rifle stock where it worked well. Lots of heat generated and its not very good for you.

PC Woody
Suppose to have been made for wood and porous materials. Bond strength poor.

There are a few more but I can't remember them. As a rule of thumb take the longer curing stuff. Epoxies containing steel can not be dyed.

Good Luck.

Will
 
I use some stuff I've had around for a long time - Epoxy-Patch. It's one of the use within 30 minutes kind and I've never hasd a problem with it.
The only problem would be color. It dries as a lighter color & is noticable on a horn handle, although on the AK blem (2 large cracks)I don't care.
I've managed to bend the point & fold a small section of blade this spring but the handle is solid as a rock
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