Criticizing the Buck 110

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I wouldn’t trade my 110’s for anything. I have to force myself to use other knives. 110’s do everything I need a knife to do and it smashes things too. Its big enough for big jobs small enough to be precise, I don’t mind the weight or the balance.

40 plus years of daily 110 use, I’ve worn out 2 of them, I’ve worn out dozens of sheaths.

For me getting to carry and use a 110 is like being able to drive the General Lee every day to work.

Putting a Buck 110 on my belt is like putting a Ma Deuce on my pick up truck. Gives me a warm feeling inside makes me feel like everything will be ok.
Then you're exactly the guy I want to talk to about this!

First, do you understand what I mean about the balance, feeling heavy in the hand and light in the blade?

Second, does this not bother you or do find it affects your control?

Third, how do you hold it and/or what technique do you use with the Buck?

Specifically when it comes to chopping, for example pinky-sized branches off of a larger branch, I find it very awkward personally. I find that to get any power on the branch, I have to move my whole arm instead of just my wrist. Do you find that also, or is there a technique you can explain to me that I should try to master?
 
I know, I know, it's sacrilege. But I was working with my Buck 110 yesterday and I realized I don't like it. I am not saying it's not a great knife, and if I have knife work to do and the 110 is there, I'll breathe a sigh of relief. I skinned a BIG buck with one back in October. It's great. But is it good?

I realized it's just waaay to off balance for me to enjoy. I felt like I was trying to hold a heavyish rock in my hand while also using a knife. Weird.

Anyone else got anything to say?

Yeah, opinions are like noses and I could care less what yours looks like. Not sure why you feel the need to tell us that you dislike the feel of something when there is nothing actually wrong with it. I could start 100s of threads based on that criteria. enjoy!!
 
It’s probably just because I’m used to it. Other knives seem front heavy. A 110 feels like I’m holding a tool, and I have a finger that cuts and pokes stuff. The blade is light and agile the handle is the counter weight.

I hold it almost every way, but often in a sideways grip with my thumb on one bolster my index finger on the other. IMG_6098.jpegSlight pressure with my lower fingers controls the tip.

If I was to chop a twig as you describe I would probably do it like this. IMG_6095.jpeg
My work knife has jimping added in two places to make it easier to pull out of tge sheath with slippery hands / gloves.IMG_6096.jpegIMG_6097.jpeg
The only thing a 110 is terrible at, is throwing. The balance is all wrong.
 
So just to be clear, when I say "I find it feels a too backheavy, and can't control it like I'd like to, do you not find that" you consider that to be a case of me wanting everyone else to come to the same conclusion? Not, as I think, a case of me asking people to share their different experiences in some detail?

Because that appears to be what you're saying. And if it is, I don't see any reason why we should interact again. But if it isn't, please clarify your position.
Yeah, I'll bow out. You just want to cherry pick certain parts of certain posts and only address those.

Most can see exactly what you're doing. I'm not fooled.

Good luck in your search for knowledge.
 
It’s probably just because I’m used to it. Other knives seem front heavy. A 110 feels like I’m holding a tool, and I have a finger that cuts and pokes stuff. The blade is light and agile the handle is the counter weight.

I hold it almost every way, but often in a sideways grip with my thumb on one bolster my index finger on the other. View attachment 2464530Slight pressure with my lower fingers controls the tip.

If I was to chop a twig as you describe I would probably do it like this. View attachment 2464531
My work knife has jimping added in two places to make it easier to pull out of tge sheath with slippery hands / gloves.View attachment 2464532View attachment 2464533
That's really helpful, thanks! I think I'm going to go play in the yard with mine right now and pay more attention to how I hold it and how you hold it, see if I feel any difference. And the jimping is super cool. Did you add that yourself? Looks extremely well done. What did you (or someone) use to accomplish that?
 
I believe we all do tend to over think these things.....the 110 is a knife that can accomplish most tasks that are to be asked of a folding knife, there are always going to be better knives for each given task and in each different persons hand/view. It will still do them though....



...... that was a gift from the local Buck agent here in Aus back in the 80s. I have many folding knives I much prefer for most all tasks but I absolutely would not fear being stranded with one.
 
I did it myself with a checkering file. I bought the file to checker this hammer, then realized it would be great for jimping on knives. IMG_20170131_174525791_zpsqp42qbgy.jpeg
The beauty of it is if you do it yourself you can use the file to clean out any gunk that builds up in the jimping.IMG_1905.jpeg
 
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If you like the ergonomics the 110 Sport has an aluminum frame and is noticeably lighter.

As to the brass framed/ebony knife, I don't hunt, but I've carried and used mine for a variety of cutting and it never occurred to me to even think about the balance, so I must be ok with it.
 
I love the 110. Different strokes for different folks I guess. In my opinion, it has one of the best combinations of efficient cutting geometry, versatile blade profile, sturdiness, weather resistance, and handle comfort of any knife I’ve come across.

I have bought (and proceeded to sell off) $800+ custom hunting knives which came with vastly inferior edge/grind geometry. Buck’s ability to ship genuinely useful blades at the price they are never ceases to amaze me. They’ve managed to populate the average general stores across the country with truly efficient, well-made knives, even in the current era where most other big store knife stocks are disappointingly low-quality. You can still walk into a walmart and come out with an heirloom-quality hunting knife, thanks to the 110.
 
I know, I know, it's sacrilege. But I was working with my Buck 110 yesterday and I realized I don't like it. I am not saying it's not a great knife, and if I have knife work to do and the 110 is there, I'll breathe a sigh of relief. I skinned a BIG buck with one back in October. It's great. But is it good?

I realized it's just waaay to off balance for me to enjoy. I felt like I was trying to hold a heavyish rock in my hand while also using a knife. Weird.

Anyone else got anything to say?
I too prefer a bit blade-heavier knife. I'm very fond of the 110lts that I have, and Buck knives in general.

They're a classic for a reason though, I totally get why they have the following that they do. Unfortunately, I limit myself to one pouch on my belt, and I have a hard enough time keeping my pants covering my rear end with what's already in my pockets.
 
It's very heavy. It's quite thick. The thickness I can live with, I'd just prefer not to. The weight is where it starts falling behind others.
 
I modified the 110 to make it lighter (scalloped out the bottom bolsters)
Oooh, how does one accomplish something like that? Today for the first time I filed a choil in a blade, so I know nothing.
like I could only own one of these two knives for the rest of my life, or take one with me out into the wild, I wouldn't even have to think about it- I'd choose the 110.
Yeah me too. There are few knives I'd trust more than the 110. Also few knives I use less. :)
I have a basic Buck 110 that I never carry. It’s heavy, clunky and inconvenient for me to EDC.
Same.
A 112 Slim Pro. I love this knife and it easily keeps up with any other USA made knives in this price category.
Nice! I have a 112 Slim Select and it's my favorite jeans-and-t-shirt carry knife. Your Pro is beautiful but for the price difference I'm happy with mine. I also have the 110 SS, but it was too long for pocket carry.

You can still walk into a walmart and come out with an heirloom-quality hunting knife, thanks to the 110.
Yeah. Or nearly any hardware store, or even my local general store. I do love that.

I did it myself with a checkering file.
It's impressive work!
If I was to chop a twig as you describe I would probably do it like this.

Okay, the results are in. I just performed a highly scientific test on my lilac bush outside, comparing my Old Hickory 7" Butcher Knife, an Ontario RAT-1, a Victorinox Forester, a Buck 722, and the Buck 110, - using the grip that you ( eveled eveled ) posted a photo of. The Ontario has a factory edge, the 722 has not been sharpened all that recently (last week, moderate work since), and the others were sharpened by me since last using them.

The Ontario and the 722 have pinky lanyards. I don't consider that cheating since it's part of the design.

The bush is alive, so although there are no leaves it's green inside. I had thick gloves on the whole time.

Opening the knives: The Old Hick is fixed blade. The RAT-1 flicks open smoothly, the Vic requires two hands and has that familiar old-school/Victorinox feel, the 722 is difficult to open with gloves, and the Buck 110 has the coolest one-handed opening of any knife, prove me wrong. I think the best part is that you risk severely cutting yourself every time you do it.

Using a sort of "chopping" grip I felt comfortable with, I found that the Hick was the easiest to swing, but has little heft so needs a good "windup" to cut anything The RAT-1 with a pinky lanyard was easy to swing, and with an extra push it cut more than the Old Hick, but not as well if I didn't give it the little "extra."

The Vic has no pinky lanyard, but still did quite well. Better than the Old Hick. Second best.

The Buck 722 with the pinky lanyard was the most fun to swing. It did fine, about the same as the Old Hick.

The Buck 110 can not be swung in a chopping motion, due to its balance, but if I articulate my whole elbow, it cut better than any of the others. Maybe if I swung the Vic that way it would have performed the same.

For push-cutting, like cutting a branch at the "V", the Buck 110 destroyed everything but the Vic Forester, which was a close second.

Using the grip that eveled eveled uses, the Buck 110 was the best by far in terms of chopping performance, but I don't like the angle/view that I have on things that way - straight on. Also I constantly felt like it was going to fall out of my hand. It didn't! But I felt like it would. Interestingly, if you see how eveled eveled grips and you check your Buck 110, you'll see that his thumb is just behind the balance point of the Buck 110. So that mitigates the "unbalanced" feeling. But I still didn't feel confident with it, and imagined how it would feel with a pinky lanyard (not that that is practical).

The 722 is too round in the butt to hold that way, the Vic has a corkscrew there, the RAT-1 was okay but got caught in the branches and had to be yanked out a couple of times. And the Old Hick is too balanced to hold back there.

In terms of feel/fun, I'd go 722, Old Hick, Ontario, Forester, Buck 110.

So (not counting the Vic Forester's other tools) I'd say the Buck 110 was the best for this type of work. But if I had to choose one of these to use all day, I'd choose the Buck 722. It performed very well, was more versatile, and did not tire my hand out. The 110 felt like a chore. The 722 felt like play. I also feel just as confident in its lock as I do with the Buck 110, which I can't say about the Ontario or even the Vic (although I have never heard of either of those failing, it's just in my head that back-lock > liner-lock.)

I'd still love to know what Luke73 Luke73 posted here: https://www.bladeforums.com/goto/post?id=20185681

That looks like a Buck 110 variant, and if the weight is more balanced that the base model, and if it's just as strong as the base model, I think I would carry it nearly everywhere.
 
Hey does anyone know if the Nickel Silver models (#0110BRS12-B ) have a balance point further forward?
 
I'd still love to know what Luke73 Luke73 posted here:
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That looks like a Buck 110 variant, and if the weight is more balanced that the base model, and if it's just as strong as the base model, I think I would carry it nearly everywhere.
Buck 110 Ultimate Hunter limited edition, rosewood, black dymondwood and green canvas micarta
 
he only better pocket knife (tactically) is the Buck 315 Yachtsman
You mean the crew knife that was made for Buck by Camillus? I have a newer Camillus crew knife, it's a good crew knife, and has one-handed opening (which wasn't really a thing back when that one came out I guess?) For me it's okay but too small for my hands. I think if I was on a boat these days, I'd get the Vic Skipper. And half a dozen others.

But... *tactical* use of the Buck 315 Yachtsman? Who is your opponent? A stubborn bowline?
 
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