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CRK...a real man's tool.

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I was reading through some threads and watching "certain" youtube videos and I got to pondering...

All this talk of what is so special about the Sebenza, Sebenza as a hard use knife, lock failure, etc...etc...

...this is all pretty frustrating to those of us CRK fans, users, and collectors. So I finally figured it out, Chris Reeve Knives are a REAL man's knife :cool: (when I say man that includes man/woman kind for those of you out there....*cough* lisa *cough* :p)

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They aren't for the amateur bushwhacker, the spinewhacking, hammer toting batoning, maniac. They are for the user who has honed their knife wielding skill to the point that anything less than perfect is just not good enough. CRK is for the user who thinks twice before cutting, uses their head, and understands that not every material in this world can be cut and still leave your pocket knife razor sharp afterwards. CRK is for the user that prepares for situations if time allows it. CRK stands for professionalism, perfection, and prestige.

When people have the "Great Debate" of Strider Vs. Sebenza (a company vs. a single knife :confused:) I think the answer is not what do you want in a knife, but what do you have in yourself. If you have the mindset that your knife will save your life in a combat zone and you are going to hammer your folder through every material known to man and expect the knife to be under warranty, you better stick to Strider. If you are skilled enough in your knife use that you can work your way around any situation, even with a folder, and come out victorious without damn near breaking your only tool, then by all means get a CRK.

For lock defeats, I'd say you are doing something wrong with your knife. Growing up through Boy Scouts, we had to EARN our tot'em chip card in order to be allowed to carry our pocket knives after learning and displaying proper knife use. Don't cut if anyone is withing arms reach, cut away from yourself - never towards yourself, keep your knife sharp - sharp knives cut easier and take less force to push through a cut, never abuse a knife, if you use a knife properly then the lock is just for looks - as it should be, USE YOUR HEAD - that's the greatest tool.

CRK owners/users are the enlightened ones, the thinkers, the tinkerers, the aware. For those that don't get it, they probably never will. I am a proud Sebenza & Umnumzaan owner and I think before I speak, think before I act, and think twice before I cut :)
 
Well stated! I have a premonition that I'll be pointing someone to this thread some day. :D
 
A+ Spot on and very well said. Theres a lot more to a knife than how much damage and stress its lock can take.
I think you summed it up pretty well.
 
Thanks everybody :) I think what broke the camel's back on this one was the guys annotations on the youtube video on the Sebenza lock failure thread. You just can't abuse a folding knife and expect miracles to happen.
 
similar could be written by folks from the traditional forum
I like both slipjoints and locking OHs, use my knives to cut as they're intended
everything else is mall ninja b-shit,a knife is a TOOL, a cutting tool and should be used like one, non locking knives saks/slipjoints,opinels have been around for a while and I've not chopped fingers of my hand due to a lack of a lock, this to support the above

a knife is a knife so use it to cut and you're be fine and happy
Maxx
 
CRK owners/users are the enlightened ones, the thinkers, the tinkerers, the aware. For those that don't get it, they probably never will. I am a proud Sebenza & Umnumzaan owner and I think before I speak, think before I act, and think twice before I cut :)


I came to this thread hoping to read about someone using a CRK for something manly. Instead I get this drivel.

I have lusted after Sebenzas in the past, but if it's going to make me into this I don't think I'll be buying one anytime soon. The elitist overtones in your post, quite frankly, disgust me.

There are no qualifications for buying a Sebenza rather than a Strider or any other knife. To suggest that somehow Sebenza owners are somehow superior to other knife owners is ridiculous, to say the least.

By the way, the Sebenza is most often compared to the Strider SnG, which is generally comparable in size, not SKI as a whole.


I am now completely turned off to CRK, because the users (at least the ones who posted here) feel that they are superior because they bought one.

Just in case you don't understand how I feel, what if I were to post, "I carry a Strider SnG everyday, that makes me, and everyone else that carries one, superior to all others. We, and we alone, are able to cut ourselves out even the most dangerous tactical-situations. Situations that would make Sebenza owners cry."

See how that works? Superiority is not based on the knife you carry, it comes from within (or not at all).
 
Love it. Great post Sir (Original Post). Speaking of CRK and locks - wouldn't it be great if CRK make a some type of a slip-joint (i would love that).
 
I came to this thread hoping to read about someone using a CRK for something manly. Instead I get this drivel.

I have lusted after Sebenzas in the past, but if it's going to make me into this I don't think I'll be buying one anytime soon. The elitist overtones in your post, quite frankly, disgust me.

There are no qualifications for buying a Sebenza rather than a Strider or any other knife. To suggest that somehow Sebenza owners are somehow superior to other knife owners is ridiculous, to say the least.

By the way, the Sebenza is most often compared to the Strider SnG, which is generally comparable in size, not SKI as a whole.


I am now completely turned off to CRK, because the users (at least the ones who posted here) feel that they are superior because they bought one.

Just in case you don't understand how I feel, what if I were to post, "I carry a Strider SnG everyday, that makes me, and everyone else that carries one, superior to all others. We, and we alone, are able to cut ourselves out even the most dangerous tactical-situations. Situations that would make Sebenza owners cry."

See how that works? Superiority is not based on the knife you carry, it comes from within (or not at all).

While I can understand, and possibly even appreciate, where you are coming from, I think you are missing the point.

The rhetoric that Strider fans use constantly goes something like this: "I bought a Strider because it's a harder use knife than a Sebenza" or "I did XYZ task with my Strider, and it didn't break. I'm so glad I have a Strider because I would have broken a Sebenza doing XYZ," and "I just hammered my SNG through some nails and it didn't break". And don't even get me started on the whole flamed titanium/tiger stripe aesthetics (I mean come on, when dudes wear tiger stripes they are usually called flamers--by the way, I actually do like the stonewashed Striders)

To provide an example from your own posts here at Bladeforums:

I pried a trunk open with a Strider SMF once. I doubt a Gerber would have survived that one.

Really? I've pried plenty of stuff open with .125 inch stock knives, and have yet to break a tip (I've even pried open those home security lock boxes with a cheap SOG). The only tip I've ever broken was on my Sebenza, and that was because I dropped it off of the second story of my friend's house onto the sidewalk.

Rhetoric is tricky business.
 
The rhetoric that Strider fans use constantly goes something like this: "I bought a Strider because it's a harder use knife than a Sebenza"

And then there's the wierdos like me who own products from both companies...
What am I supposed to do?:confused: Do I berate myself for not getting a "manly" knife only to turn around and snobbishly turn my nose up at myself for buying a "sharpened pry bar"?
Am I going to have to develop multiple personally disorder so I can properly do the damn thing?
Help!!!
 
If Striders are "manly", then Sebenza's, being their complete opposite, must be "womanly".

Having both means you are a hermaphrodite.
 
If Striders are "manly", then Sebenza's, being their complete opposite, must be "womanly".

Having both means you are a hermaphrodite.

Saves having to look for a sex partner...

But how are they opposite anyway?

Titanium? Check.
Pocket clip? Check.
Blade with both an edge AND a tip? Check.
Cost more than some people spend on rent? Check.

You have to stretch things to see them as opposites.
 
I was almost ready to respectfully respond to your post, then I noticed some homosexual bashing, and decided it wasn't worth it.

I apologize if my sarcasm didn't translate through the text. In no way did I intend to demean, denigrate, or belittle an individual's sexual orientation. I agree with you, however, and feel that perhaps I should have chosen my words more carefully.

You have to stretch things to see them as opposites.

It was a joke (pretty clearly the comparison is extremely weak). Again, I'm sorry if the sarcasm made the interpretation difficult.
 
It was a joke (pretty clearly the comparison is extremely weak). Again, I'm sorry if the sarcasm made the interpretation difficult.

I figured it likely was.:)

But oddly, in some people's minds, they ARE opposite.
Which confuses me, as I took turns using the Umnumzaan and my SmF when cutting 1/4" thick leather for the sheath I made about a month ago...and they both worked quite well.:eek:
I will say that the factory edge form CRK is far better. I had to do a resharpening to get my Striders to cut the way I wanted.
 
That is exactly what I was alluding to - or at least attempting to - earlier. The fanboy rhetoric presupposes that any time a Strider accomplishes something, that a Sebenza would have broken making the same attempt.

The Strider SNG (which the Sebenza is frequently compared to) IS made of a thicker stock, DOES have a different stop pin configuration, and IS constructed with a larger pivot. At some point - all material strengths being the same - the Strider WILL be able to do something which could possibly damage/break a Sebenza. I am not convinced, however, that the two are really all that far apart in toughness.

A better comparison would be an Umnumzaan to an SNG, and yet I've only seen a few threads and videos in which such a comparison is made.

Right now I'm torn between getting a small custom made fixed blade and an SNG; and seeing whether or not Strider is a lot of hype for myself.
 
SKI makes a good, solid blade, but it won't necessarily be as "finished" as a CRK. The lack of polishing is actually why they appeal to me, to be completely honest.

I think the only fair comparison between the Sebenza and SnG is in terms of popularity. The SnG is, last I heard, the most popular (in terms of quantity) knife in the Strider line. I suspect the Sebenza shared that title at CRK, but I don't know for sure.

Can we stop posting about Striders now in the CRK forum? Seems a little rude to me.
 
I think you might be missing the point of the original OP's thread. When I read it I in know way interpret it as "Sebenza owners are better than everyone else."
Just like when I read Cynics post I didn't interpret it as "Tiger stripes are for gay people." Instead of taking things so litteraly I instead try to understand what
the overall take home message the poster is trying to convey in his post.
And just wanted to add Im really proud of finally owning an SNG again that just came in today. Probably the best example of a Strider Ive owned to date.
 
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I think you might be missing the point of the original OP's thread. When I read it I in know way interpret it as "Sebenza owners are better than everyone else."
Just like when I read Cynics post I didn't interpret it as "Tiger stripes are for gay people." Instead of taking things so litteraly I instead try to understand what
the overall take home message the poster is trying to convey in his post.
And just wanted to add Im really proud of finally owning an SNG again that just came in today. Probably the best example of a Strider Ive owned to date.

CRK owners/users are the enlightened ones...

What did I misinterpret about this?

I mean come on, when dudes wear tiger stripes they are usually called flamers...

Again?

I think perhaps you are overlooking these obvious statements because you don't want to see it. I guess I'm being literal because I cannot see any use of figurative language.

CRK owners are enlightened. Seems pretty straightforward to me. What non-literal message am I missing here?

Wearing tigerstripes = "flamer" Nearly everyone knows that "flamer" is a derogatory term for homosexual, and that does seem to be the intent here. The poster even apologized for the use (much respect for that, by the way). What non-literal message am I missing here?
 
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