CRK grease question

I just want to be perfectly clear that Moore Cutlery has absolutely nothing to do with this. I just picked up their stock photo from google to use as a comparative source from a reputable dealer.
 
Reeper22 said:
Can you tell us how you know it wasn't CRK grease?
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If you follow the development of the thread you can kind of see how we've come to this conclusion. but in short...

-it was applied correctly
-after 2 days initial smoothness changed to a kind of a rough opening and closing
-blade speed and action become completely stiff (from the very beginning
-product labeling and packaging seems to be totally different than what comes directly from CRK
 
I hate to disagree as I know some of you commenting here have much more experience than I when it comes to Chris Reeve knives/products, but the picture of the "Christo-Lube" looks identical to that purchased within the last few weeks from Northwest Blades, an authorized Chris Reeve dealer (http://www.chrisreeve.com/Domestic Dealers.pdf). As stated earlier, I have a hard time believing that someone would go to that extent to create a "fake" that sells for less than $15. If I'm wrong (which is possible) I've got a bone to pick with Northwest Blades.
 
livingmochila said:
I hate to disagree as I know some of you commenting here have much more experience than I when it comes to Chris Reeve knives/products, but the picture of the "Christo-Lube" looks identical to that purchased within the last few weeks from Northwest Blades, an authorized Chris Reeve dealer (http://www.chrisreeve.com/Domestic Dealers.pdf). As stated earlier, I have a hard time believing that someone would go to that extent to create a "fake" that sells for less than $15. If I'm wrong (which is possible) I've got a bone to pick with Northwest Blades.
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In response to your comment and as a general update to anyone interested i have some new information.

The company i purchased this item from was also "Northwest Blades". I have already contact them. To paraphrase what i wrote to them...

"you seem to be an authorized dealer, your other sale items look legit, you have over 1600 positive feedbacks at 100%, and overall you appear to be completely reputable, that is why i have contact you first before contacting eBay or Paypal"

i went on to tell them my problem and suspicions and asked that they reply to be asap. They did. They wrote me back almost immediately. Their response was extremely professional and understanding. In fact they already refund me my money and claim to be sending me a new tube of grease. They also said i can check with CRK to make sure they are authorized.

I think we have some time to see how this unfolds... but if they send me a new tube that looks like the one in the second picture i will be highly suspicious that they run a small scale scam...

selling the knock off and if someone makes a fuss they return the money and send out the real stuff, therefore avoiding negative feedback.

anyway who knows? i will keep you all update though.

livingmochila,

what do you think of the grease you received? are you satisfied with it? can you write a brief description of how you used it and what your results are?

Thanks.
 
compared to many of the lubes available CRK grease does make a Sebs action pretty... um... slow... almost resistant to movement. The main lube I use is "Miltec-1." In comparison there really is no comparison. With Miltec the action is suuuuuuper slick with absolutely zero resistance. It's apples and oranges almost.

I would still be using CRK's grease but I gave it away... foolishly. IMO, the OP describes his grease pretty much as expected with the real McCoy.

If someone was making fake CRK grease I would think the tube would be different...and cheap. Does it have the twisty top with offset nozzle and an O-ring?
 
archieblue said:
Does it have the twisty top with offset nozzle and an O-ring?
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If someone was making fake stuff i could see the tube being different, but not if it's meant to represent the real stuff. anyway, i still have a hard enough time seeing someone producing fake grease as it is, but you never know. sometimes small scams pay off big.

The tube is quality, twist top, offset nozzle and o-ring are all the same as the real thing.

I will look into Miltec-1.

Thanks
 
the real CRK grease works really well. i would also contact CRK about this if you havnt already.
 
Chadridv- I have used the grease on both a large Sebenza as well as a Umnumzaan and both seem to function smoother than before- although both knives were acquired secondhand, so I'm now wondering if maybe I just don't know how smooth a Chris Reeve is supposed to feel? Please update me/us when the replacement is received.
 
livingmochila said:
Chadridv- I have used the grease on both a large Sebenza as well as a Umnumzaan and both seem to function smoother than before- although both knives were acquired secondhand, so I'm now wondering if maybe I just don't know how smooth a Chris Reeve is supposed to feel? Please update me/us when the replacement is received.
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i will definitely update you, but for now i can give a quick example of the smoothness changes i saw, before and after applying the grease.

I have owned 4 sebenzas and 1 Umnumzaan. I have very easily been able to thumb flick each of them. Just to be clear I'm not talking about wrist flicking, i'm talking about using my thumb to flick open the knife with absolutely no movement of my arm, wrist or hand.

after applying this grease, not only is it now impossible for me to thumb flick it open, but when i try, the blade only deploys about 5-10% and stops.
 
CRK grease is not about thumb flicking imho. My brother doesn't mess with breaking down his sebenza for proper maintenance. He just sprays some WD40 in the pivot once in a while and puts it back in his pocket. With just oil it thumbflicks easy. With real CRK grease direct from the factory it will not. I don't see a reason to thumb flick a sebenza but that's just me. If I wanted a fast deploy knife I would carry an EKI waved and have it open as I pull it out of my pocket.

Once I used my sebenzas a lot I found opening it with my thumb without a flick is faster and more ergonomic.

Anyhow, grease is made to stick to what it is applied to. Just think about that when you try to flick open ur blade. Sure its meant to be a lubricant but its also meant to stay there.
 
Simply because of the fact that the product is called "Christo-Lube..."

I have only bought my grease directly from CRK, it seems like the bay is filled with too damn many counterfeit products anyways. Id only buy something that cheap from a reputable dealer anyways, its not like you're getting overcharged if the product is only 15 bucks at most. And I have been on the same tube for almost 2 years now.....
 
FYI, CRK said that the CRK Grease is a repackaged grease that they found to work best with their tolerances. I think, the original version is the TW-25B from Mil-Comm.

Edit: I was wrong, I just seen a picture of the new CRK Grease, and it seems to be "Christo-Lube".
 
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Chad,
I talked to "Heather" this morning at CRK. The CRK grease you got from Northwest Blades is the correct grease just in newer packaging.

 
It's funny, before writing that example of smoothness, i was really close to disclaiming that my example is purely just a constant variable, to demonstrate the smoothness and deployment speed of the blade/pivot, not an opening statement on the philosophies of knife deployment.

Although i appreciate your stance on "thumb flicking", i've been down this road before right here on bladeforums discussing the different views on thumb flicking. Getting into this discussion was definitely not my intention.

I totally agree that grease, or even CRK are "not about thumb flicking", but there is no doubt thumb flicking is a great example, both visually and physically to demonstrate the smoothness and speed of a knife.

UPDATE ON THE MAIN TOPIC

As Rick mentioned, i have also received word from CRK that the package sent to me is 100% authentic and furthermore Northwest Knives is a reputable and authorized CRK dealer. It is the real thing!

As i wrote in an earlier post, the reply i received from Northwest Knives was extremely fast, and their handling of the situation was totally professional and beyond reasonable. I hope this will not tarnish their record in anyway, and i'm very glad i decided to contact them directly before contacting eBay or leaving negative feedback.

The "knock-off" investigation and inquiry can end here.

With that said,

I'm pretty disappointed with the results of CRK grease.

richstag said:
CRK grease is not about thumb flicking imho. My brother doesn't mess with breaking down his sebenza for proper maintenance. He just sprays some WD40 in the pivot once in a while and puts it back in his pocket. With just oil it thumbflicks easy. With real CRK grease direct from the factory it will not. I don't see a reason to thumb flick a sebenza but that's just me. If I wanted a fast deploy knife I would carry an EKI waved and have it open as I pull it out of my pocket.

Once I used my sebenzas a lot I found opening it with my thumb without a flick is faster and more ergonomic.

Anyhow, grease is made to stick to what it is applied to. Just think about that when you try to flick open ur blade. Sure its meant to be a lubricant but its also meant to stay there.
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I quit using flourinated grease a while back.
BTW, I was using Finish Line bicycle grease, which is the same formula as CRK, it just costs far less.

A good quality synthetic oil makes any CRK action a lot faster, if not smoother, than the thick, sticky grease. I use Corrosion-X.

Another reason I prefer oil to grease is that I don't have to break down the knife to re-lube it.

If you re-do your lanyard, be sure to only buy genuine CRK nylon cord.
It's expensive, $20 per foot, but nothing else compares. It's the best.
Just beware of knock offs.:p
 
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