The other day I was flipping through the product catalog CRK&T sent me in the mail, and I noticed that a lot of their folders that have the reversible clip (tip up or tip down) have a disclaimer saying that they are not designed for in the pocket tip up carry, which is how I prefer to carry a folder. Does anyone know why CRK&T does not recommend these knives be carried in that manner? I'm guessing they are likely to come open in the pocket. If that is the case, then I feel it was just a waste of time to even put a reversible clip on the knives.
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Almost any liner-lock carried tip up can from the jarring effects of walking jiggle open. I've jabbed my finger while reaching into my pocket on a Tanto pointed Buck Strider, that did just that. Tightened the blade pivot up and it never happened again.
CRKT is just covering their asses by stating they aren't designed to carry tip up. It's really up to you whether you choose to or not.
CRKT is just covering their asses by stating they aren't designed to carry tip up. It's really up to you whether you choose to or not.
I think it's safe to say that any knife with a ball bearing (or the sort) on the frame lock or liner lock, which creates enough pressure to keep the knife from opening accidentally by means of "jiggling" open, is safe to be carried tip-up. I prefer my knives to be tip up and NONE has stabbed me while i've reached for it.
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Heavy blades and a rather loose blade pivot and it can happen. My Buck did and it was shipped with the blade loose enough to flip out easy. I tightened it up, I doubt it will again. Of course now it's a lot harder to flip open.
any quality tip up is plenty safe to carry in your pockey, i edc either an emerson (CQC12 or a custom '8) or a spyderco Ti ATR and neither one has ever even started to come open in my poket, in over 6 yrs of carry.
now whether a CRKT is ok to carry tip up is another question. perhaps the detent isnt strong enough to reliably hold the blade closed??
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In my opinion it's linked with flipper existing in many CRKT folders. In fact I'm not sure if there is any non-flipper with 4 position clip.
And it is _possible_ to partially open a folder by catching pocket edge with flipper, while inserting a knife into a pocket tip-up. I've tried a few times and it's quite easy (of course I was doing it on purpose)
And it is _possible_ to partially open a folder by catching pocket edge with flipper, while inserting a knife into a pocket tip-up. I've tried a few times and it's quite easy (of course I was doing it on purpose)
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the warning is only for knives with dual flippers. I don't know if any of the single flipper folders have the warning, but I'm not looking at the catalog now so I can't be certain. I also don't know if any of the single flippers have the four way clip attachment. near as I can tell, it seems like they're just worried about tip-up carry with a dual flip allowing the second flipper to act sort of like the wave mechanism.
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I had the same thing happen to me as Jill, except it was a benchmade panther. It stuck into the bone of my pinkie finger, then sliced farther when it broke free. I was in a gas line reaching for my money in my RFP. The pocket was almost filled with blood by the time I got out to the car and wrapped it. Nobody in the store seemed to notice.
It needed tightening. I don't know if a ball bearing detent was present on that early model benchmade. Joe
It needed tightening. I don't know if a ball bearing detent was present on that early model benchmade. Joe
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I'm just guessing here, but if the warning is only for the dual flipper models, I believe it's to avoid copyright issues with the Emerson wave feature. I heard they got Bram Frank's blessing due to the flipper's kinetic opening tendencies, so that would make sense to me. Just my two cents.