CRKT M-16 liner lock

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Jeff Manney

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I was wondering about something. Before I bought the M-16-04, I had seen a lot of criticism/doubt regarding the knife's locking reliability because of its 1/16" liner lock. I have done some pretty hard spine whacks with this knife. Once, I was standing and brought the knife down hard on a rock solid piece of plywood shelving, about 4 or 5 times. I weigh 225 lbs, and am no stranger to the gym, and this thing wouldn't budge. I was wondering, because I haven't heard anyone else comment on this idea: is it possible the thin liner lock creates more flex, and thereby more tension against the blade tang, thereby creating a more reliable lock? Theoretically, this thin lock might not be as STRONG as more thicker locks in more expensive knives, such as Sere 2000 and LCC, but it may be just as reliable under regular use. What are other experiences of the full size M-16?
 
Jeff,
I had an M16-14mil but sold it. ONLY because I am not a tanto fan. It is a TOUGH knife with a great lockup, especially considering the price. I beat mine pretty hard too and could NOT make it fail! I am now carrying an LCC and it does have an even "better" lockup but what do you expect for 3x the price!?! Just so we know that a folder is not, nor can it be expected to be, a fixed blade we should be glad to have liner-locks as solid as the M16!!
 
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jason Burns:
Jeff,
I had an M16-14mil but sold it. ONLY because I am not a tanto fan. It is a TOUGH knife with a great lockup, especially considering the price. I beat mine pretty hard too and could NOT make it fail! I am now carrying an LCC and it does have an even "better" lockup but what do you expect for 3x the price!?! Just so we know that a folder is not, nor can it be expected to be, a fixed blade we should be glad to have liner-locks as solid as the M16!!</font>
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Thanks for the response. Quite a knife for $50. The styling on that knife is awesome, too. I think it is inevitable my next blade will be an LCC.

 
A couple months or more, I remember reading something by one of the wiser heads here about the thickness of liner locks. Whoever it was said that there didn't seem to be much parallel between thickness and effective lockup. I think he even talked about some thinner liners bending, but keeping the lock tight. It is my guess -- and sincere hope -- that I'll lose my grip before my M16-14 liner loses its'.

I keep buying knives to replace the M16, but I keep coming back to it. Makes me think I'll try about anything out there I can afford with flippers -- maybe even the new S&W -- no flames please. I think I'll exclude the Kershaws tho, because I don't think they're any faster, and IMHO, if any knives we commonly use, buy/sell that are going to be taken away from us it will be the assisted openers.


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Bugs
 
I've got an M16-03Z, not sure if it's the same size or same thickness liner as yours, but mine has a very solid lockup. It's much thicker than the liner on the KFF or Point Guard. As far as liner locks go, by M16 is one of the better ones in my collection.

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I had an M16-14 but sold it (for 50) to a cop. To this day, I still miss it and sometime I'll probbaly buy another. I have owned both the 14 and 04, Carson knows what he's doing. Very good lockup and very cool tactical look. ...And that flipper...

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