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CRKT Sangrador fail

Discussion in 'Knife Reviews & Testing' started by csabacanada, Nov 1, 2018.

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  1. csabacanada

    csabacanada Gold Member Gold Member

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    Sep 5, 2005
    I purchased the knife a couple of years ago and I liked it so much that I got another one.Never used them till a couple of days ago I was throwing knives and I thought let's try the Sangrador , it is double edge should stick good.
    To my surprise the blade snapped right at the first screw.What the heck.Maybe I got a lemon so I tried the second knife .Couple of throws blade broke at the exact same place .I could not believe it.I know that it is not a throwing knife but it is made of SK5 that is a tough carbon steel .I have knives made of SK5 at 58RC and I have been usind for many years and could not damage the edge. Sangrador SK5 is 54-56 RC .At that hardness SK5 is supposed to be ultra tough and ductile.Most throwing knives are hardened to 55-57RC.Also SK5 is supposed to be a fine grained steel.If you check the picture the grain looks very corse.Big disappointment.I realy like the knife shape.If you have one don't throw it .Thanks
     

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  2. DocJD

    DocJD

    Jan 29, 2016
    Bad HT . Unfortunately, not so very unusual for CRKT . Lots of cool designs ruined by their crap production . :(:thumbsdown:
     
  3. Daniel L

    Daniel L Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 2, 1998
    Have you tried their warranty claim? It looks like a bad heat treat.

    That being said, CRKT isn't a brand I'd be trusting to do any thing heavy with ;)
     
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  4. katanas

    katanas

    Jan 6, 2012
    Placing the screw (pin?) hole right where the tang narrows (weak point) is a baaaad idea! :rolleyes:
     
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  5. Peter Mandrake

    Peter Mandrake

    64
    Aug 4, 2018
    I've been pricing this knife and as much as CRKT wants for it, this definitely SHOULD NOT be a problem for the price range it's in.

    They BETTER replace them for you. If they don't, I'd be furious. :mad:
     
  6. Dragon_Man

    Dragon_Man

    Apr 26, 2003
    Does their warranty cover throwing?
     
  7. csabacanada

    csabacanada Gold Member Gold Member

    499
    Sep 5, 2005
    Nope.They would not replece it because the the Sangrador has been discontinued.Price went down from 149.95 to 39.99.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
    No CRKT ever for me.
     
  8. Peter Mandrake

    Peter Mandrake

    64
    Aug 4, 2018
    Well I can tell you, this little story has put me OFF of CRKT. (and I own some CRKT product)

    There's simply no excuse for sub-standard materials and / or heat-treat at the $100.00+ price point.

    IMO, I would chalk this up as theft, really no other way to describe it. :(
     
  9. Danke42

    Danke42

    Feb 10, 2015
    Is that a "throwing knife"?

    Sure doesn't look like one.
     
  10. Mo2

    Mo2

    Apr 8, 2016
    Crkt is known for poor ht. That along with many other things makes me avoid themike the plauge. They make knives people like the look of. And then charge more for the poor quality because of the look.
     
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  11. Thomas Linton

    Thomas Linton

    Jun 16, 2003
    It's a poorly designed product that CRKT would not stand behind. Not "theft." Look it up.

    My first, and last CRKT, was a "stainless steelL M-16 that rusted after use on green maple when my Schrade
    Old Timer in 1095, 1095!, after the same use, did not rust. Both got a cursory wipe on a dry rag. That was all I needed to know about CRKT..
     
  12. Frotier76

    Frotier76

    383
    Dec 14, 2013
    Well to be truthful the original Old Timer fixed blades in 1095 had a polished finish...harder to patina and slower rust development versus carbon steel in a satin finish.As for CRKT I think you're referring to the unavoidable nature of bead blasted finish on stainless steel and the result of peppering from exposed pores in this finish.Even a piece of 420HC in bead blast will pepper in this finish from anything-juices,oil from your fingertips...even the elements.
     
  13. mwhich50

    mwhich50 Basic Member Basic Member

    Jan 18, 2011
    I saw these for 39.99 too. I was going to grab one but it had a huge rectangular soft nylon sheath, that didn't make sense for me. I was hoping it would have a thin glass reinforced nylon sheath. Pass.
    I purchased almost all of these CRKT knives, "on sale". Akari, Argus, Crossbones, Hissatsu, Minimalist, M-16-14T, Nirk Tighe, Obake, Ripple, blue, Ripple, copper, Ripple, grey, Shizuka Noh Ken. I have been very happy with all of these but one. The only one that has a factory flaw is the Crossbones (LATE lock-up/sticking). PS: I am not a "hard user".
     
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  14. brownshoe

    brownshoe I support this site with my MIND

    Sep 6, 2002
    Their warranty is pretty clear. Any use of their knives for something other than cutting voids the warranty.

    I've seen relatively soft steel hunting knives break when thrown. I've seen chef's knives in soft 440A break upon stabbing straight into a wood block. Knives designed to be thrown don't have screwed on handles or any holes right in the middle of a blade. Most thowing knives are flatter, no fuller down the middle and very thin handles if any. If you throw knives, you'd know this one isn't designed for throwing. It's sold as a fighting knife which means stabbing and slicing
     
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