CruForgeV heat treat specs

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Anyone get the specs on heat treating the new Crucible CruForgeV 1086 steel? Also, anyone made a blade from this steel yet and what do you think of the steel?
 
beginner930 said:
Anyone get the specs on heat treating the new Crucible CruForgeV 1086 steel? Also, anyone made a blade from this steel yet and what do you think of the steel?
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I was in contact with crucible today and asked them and thy told me that thy don't have any of that info yet. but amy was nice enough to give me there metallurgist phone number so i can ask them. I am going to call them tomorrow and see what thy have to say.
 
Please let me know what you find out. I got my steel in today and am going to the forge tomorrow. I would think it would be similar to 1095 steel. Can't wait to try it out so I hope I get the info before I get to the heat treat stage.
 
beginner930 said:
Please let me know what you find out. I got my steel in today and am going to the forge tomorrow. I would think it would be similar to 1095 steel. Can't wait to try it out so I hope I get the info before I get to the heat treat stage.
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Actually, one of the reasons that it has all of that manganese and chrome may be so that it DOESN"T heat treat like 1095:D
 
Beginner , please don't use '1086V' .The proper name is 'CruForgeV'. It is a 1 % carbon grade so comments about Hypereutectoid steels apply , see tutorials. HT will be similar to the W-1,W-2,O-1 group.
 
I know what you're saying, Karl, and I don't know about what steel is in what group. But I think mete is referring to that W1 and O1 both like a longer soak (15-30 minutes) at around the same temperature (1450-1475). Of course, the quenching medium/speed is much different.

The main things we need to know: hardening temperature, soak time, quench speed, and tempering temp/hardness relationship.

--nathan
 
What I meant was that the three have relatively low amounts of alloying elements and similar carbon amounts.The big difference is the high Mn content of O-1 increasing it's hardenability.
CruForgeV should have the same hardening temperature and soak time as O-1 .Slightly less quench speed and similar tempering curves.
You're very impatient why not wait till Blade ?
 
I have heat treated 2 blades and Crucible has disected them and analized them. Results are even better than I hoped for. Crucible is also finishing up their test blocks. I have word that the spec sheet is done and will be ready ASAP. I hesitate to put my heat treat system up before we have all the info from the crucible test cubes. The good thing is they have results from both the standard cubes they make in the lab and blades made with our standard bladesmithing equipment. Of course I traveled to Pittsburgh (Crucible Research) and demonstrated traditional forging, heat treating, and even hand sanding for the Phd brain trust so they could design the steel so that we could get good results with our methods/equipment at the beginning of this project.

Spec sheets and in informational brochure for bladesmiths are being made as we speak.

If you need to heat treat before the Blade show email me, but thuroughly reasearched info that will be the standard is just around the corner.

Dan Farr
 
Dan, this is just phenomenal that Crucible has taken the time and effort that they obviously have to tailor a steel just for bladesmiths. I'm stoked that they requested a smith to come in and demonstrate for them so they can better know how to design the steel. Exceptional! And something you don't see very often these days.

Sounds like this steel is going to be nice to work with. I've got a few bars coming in, though it will take some time before I work too much with it. I have to build my forge, and then I have to learn how to actually forge ;).

--nathan
 
Thanks to everyone for their response. And Thanks to Dan Farr and Mr. Batson, who I was told by Crucible played a part in us getting this steel. As the small details actually mean something to a good bladesmith, I believe I will wait until I obtain the exact specs from Crucible. Its hard to wait when this steel sounds so good, but that is the smart thing to do.
 
sabre said:
I have heat treated 2 blades and Crucible has disected them and analized them. Results are even better than I hoped for. Crucible is also finishing up their test blocks. I have word that the spec sheet is done and will be ready ASAP. I hesitate to put my heat treat system up before we have all the info from the crucible test cubes. The good thing is they have results from both the standard cubes they make in the lab and blades made with our standard bladesmithing equipment. Of course I traveled to Pittsburgh (Crucible Research) and demonstrated traditional forging, heat treating, and even hand sanding for the Phd brain trust so they could design the steel so that we could get good results with our methods/equipment at the beginning of this project.

Spec sheets and in informational brochure for bladesmiths are being made as we speak.

If you need to heat treat before the Blade show email me, but thuroughly reasearched info that will be the standard is just around the corner.

Dan Farr
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Hand sanding is a big piece of the equation anytime you include vanadium!!!
 
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