Cuda 7.0 Framelock

Rat Finkenstein

Rat Finkenstein

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I just recently bought a cuda maxx 7.0, and I am wondering if the lock isnt slightly defective. It doesnt seem to move over far enough, even though it has room to go further, and you can push the lock over to where it seems like it should be. The framelock, when engaged, doesnt completely stop the blade from having a small amount of play. it can be heard and felt when wiggling the knife. If I press the lock in, the play disappears.
I will try to post a pic of the lockup later when I get home.

Has anyone had a similar experience with this knife?
 
I have 2 CUDA MAXXs and that condition exists on both of them. I have never had a concern for them unlocking at an inappropriate moment, however.
 
no experience with that particular knife, but the locking mech. is definately jacked up. take it back/send it back and get it replaced, and let this be a lesson to you that all linerlocks and framelocks suck suck suck.


alternatively, if you're handy you can take the folder apart and manually bend the lockbar in. you'll only need to bend it in a teeny bit so that when the knife is assembled it has *just* enough lateral force to fully engage the blade tang. but this is really a temporary fix and you risk messing something up by taking the knife apart/bending too much/etc.

sorry to hear 'bout your misfortune. :(
 
I've got framelocks from CRK, Darrell Ralph, Camillus, and Strider. NO problems. The CUDA Maxx line is highly reliable. I can't tell if you have a real problem there or if you just need to play with the knife for a while to get it to slide over to where you're more comfortable with it.

We have an active Camillus Forum in our Manufacturers section. Post your question there and I bet you get an answer or an invitation by Camillus to send it in for customer service. :)
 
i would send yours back. I have the same experience in you with the framelock seeming to not lock all the way, but trust me, it's solid. If you're really paranoid, you can just push it all the way in, but then it's rather difficult to disengage. However, I have not experienced any vertical blade play with my maxx so you might want to exchange that.
 
Mine took a bit to settle in. I believe that they leave the estra space intentionally as titanium will gall and wear against steel faster than steel will ear against steel, so it needs a bit of space to settle into.
 
The problem is that the lock wasn't tensioned or bent far enough to engage the blade completely. It doesn't mean the knife is defective in material or workman ship, it was just a miss on QC. It is unlikely that it would unlock on you, but it is a condition you should have corrected. You want the lock to engage correctly when opened.
 
Here are some pics of the lock:
cudamaxxlockup.jpg

Is this defective? Thanks for all the replys.
 
From the look of the pics, the problem looks like I described before. Lock needs to be bent over a little more. If you chave the tools, take the knife apart and bend the lock over a bit. It will take a bit of effort, but nothing that will bust a gut. If you can't take it apart, you should send it back to Camillus.

Also, try tightening the pivot. On rare occasions that will cause the rattle you here.
 
yeah, I agree...just try it out. Unless you are totally moronic and use ALL of your strength, you're not going to screw it up. Just think of it as fine-tuning the fit of these pieces. You want just enough tension to hold the blade locked open but not enough so that it is hard to push back over.

good luck.

Nitin
 
Another quick question: Is it normal for the blade to be not centered? When closed, the tip is about 2/3 of the way towards the side opposite the lock- so it clinks against the handle if you set it down on that side. it doesnt clink when set down on the clip side. It also clinks in my pocket, if it is patted.
 
Have you tightened the pivot? That may correct the centering, and keep the blade from shifting and clinking.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
Have you tightened the pivot? That may correct the centering, and keep the blade from shifting and clinking.
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I plan to do so tonight, as soon as I purchase myself some Torx drivers. I kind of was wondering if that was the problem, But I assumed (perhaps erroneously) that if the pivot was loose, I would be seeing bladeplay from side to side.
 
you may have to just send it in. With framelocks, you have to get EVERYTHING right or else the knife is either off-centered or doesn't lockup correctly. The Dominator I had had similar problems so I got rid of it.

Nitin
 
Ok, The main problem with the bladeplay is gone, now that I have bent the lock slightly. Rock solid. Thanks for the advice.
lockup.jpg

I am still a little concerned about the blade alignment, however. Here is a Pic:
alignment.jpg

Do any of you have this alignment issue?
 
I would send it in. That kind of thing is VERY hard to correct at home. It's usually a tolerance issue.

Nitin
 
With your opened apply pressure on the flat of the blade and push the blade TOWARDS the handle on the side it is about to rub against. Sounds funny to push towards rather than away but due to the geometry it is towards. You may want to put the flat of the blade on a hard surface to do this. What it should do is to center the blade. Once centered I would tighten that pivot at least a hair! I've done this a number of times with the desired results being acheived.
 
artsig1 said:
With your opened apply pressure on the flat of the blade and push the blade TOWARDS the handle on the side it is about to rub against. Sounds funny to push towards rather than away but due to the geometry it is towards. You may want to put the flat of the blade on a hard surface to do this. What it should do is to center the blade. Once centered I would tighten that pivot at least a hair! I've done this a number of times with the desired results being acheived.
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Sounds like pretty good advice. My question is: how hard do I try to bend it, and what exactly is being bent- The blade or the pivot? Will that void the warranty? Damn, I am chock full of questions! Thanks
 
I wouldn't worry about it that much.


So the blade alignment isn't centered when the knife is closed. So what? You're not using the knife when it's closed. If the knife securely locks opened, you win. When it's closed it doesnt matter.

I understand your concern about an off centered blade. But don't be too nitpicky. After all, it's only a cutting tool. ;)





And I don't necessarily agree with artsig's advice. I mean, sure it'll work, but something seems crummy about bending the handles into blade to make it center. To answer your question, fink, the pivot is what is being slightly slightly bent to conform to the closed blade.


Haha, see? Linerlocks/framelocks suck suck suck. Get yourself a benchmade griptilian and use it for the rest of your life. ;)
 
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