Cuda EDC 154CM...WOW!!

glockman99

glockman99

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This morning, I received the Cuda EDC (with the 154CM steel) that I had traded for, and this is one EXCELLENT little folder! The "feel", fit, and finish, is the BEST of ANY production folder that I have EVER seen! The quality-control on this folder is 100%.

It looks like, but feels BETTER than, the EXPENSIVE CR Sebenza! (...In MY opinion anyway)...And at 1/4 the price of a 'Benz...:cool:.

I have a question, 'tho...My new EDC has "1 of 500" marked on the blade...Was this a special "run"? (It "looks" like a "regular" production model...).
 
Yes, a special run of 154 CM steel vs the 420HC steel in the regular models.

A great little knife!
 
You are obviously a man of great taste!!!! The 154CM EDC is the best value going in the knife world right now!!! :D
 
My EDC 154 CM came from the factory much sharper than my small Sebenza. While I really like the EDC, it's not a Sebenza.

I bought the EDC after the Sebenza thinking it would be my carry knife so I wouldn't have to worry about losing a $ 275 knife. Didn't happen. I've never carried or even used the EDC, it's just not in the same league and of course was never meant to be a Sebenza competitor. My Sebenza is my every day carry knife.

If, IMHO, Camillus were to double the thickness of the scales and go to Titanium, and thicken the blade just a bit when they go to Talonite in the EDC, they would have a knife that would be better than the small Sebenza since the EDC feels better in your hand and is much nicer looking than the "gray turd".

However, the Sebenza has a major advantage in the strength of the lock and it's design for maintenance.

Of course I realize that Camillus is going for a much wider market in general but I'd love to see an EDC in Talonite that was a true competitor to the small Sebenza.

I'd also like to see a larger EDC, say 3.5 inch blade, with the changes I noted above. It would be a direct competitor to the large Sebenza at a much more reasonable price.
 
roshi – I couldn’t agree with you more. I’d love to see a version of the talonite EDC that was a direct competitor with the Sebenza in terms of overall strength and precision. I’d buy one in a heartbeat, even if it were the same price as a Seb. The question is whether Camillus could actually make any money off of the project. Seeing as Camillus is geared for volume production, the initial equipment investment could be enormous. There would have to be a pretty big audience to justify an expense like that. It would be cool though. Then again, I guess that’s why we have Darrel pumping out his awesome customs!!!
 
I was looking-over my PERFECT Camillus EDC a few minutes ago, and after reading roshi's post, I would REALLY like to see a larger version of this EDC...One with a blade of 3.9 inches long (to put it just under the 4 inch "limit"). But then, I'm not sure that Camillus would be able to "keep-up with the demand"...

Also...No, this Camillus EDC is NOT a Sebenza...But then, neither is it's price!.:eek:
 
Glockman99, you're right about the price not being Sebenza-like.

I loved the looks of the EDC and the 154 CM blade cuts like a much larger blade. I've seen all the different ways BF members have cord wrapped the EDC which not only individualizes it but makes it look ten times better than a Sebenza. I really like the way the EDC fit my hand. How even though it's a small knife it didn't feel small. I guess what disappointed me about the EDC was the thin scales. It's sort of more like an external liner locker than a frame lock. There's something very reassuring about the way the Sebenza makes that loud "clunk" sound when it locks up. And how you can look down with even old eyes like mine and see 60% or more frame engagement with the blade at lock up. It would be interesting to see some one test a Sebenza and an EDC to lock destruction to see how much value that "clunk" provides.

Camillus, beef up the scales, bring on the Talonite, make a large EDC and I'll put both my small and large Sebenza up for sale (after I up grade of course Spark ;) ).

I think Camillus could build an EDC better than a small Sebenza for under $ 100 street price (MSRP of $ 140)and an EDC better than large Sebenza for under $ 150 street price (MSRP of $200).

I also agree with Glockman99's 3.9 inch blade proposal.
 
I like to think of the Sebenza as "more than I'll ever need", which is pretty nifty for my giant ego. :D

I think of the EDC more as "as much knife as I need for the job", which is a lot easier on my wallet. :)
 
Roshi,

1)All things being equal, stainless steel will make a much stronger lock than titanium. Why do you assume your Sebenza has a stronger lock?

2)The frame lock of the EDC is approximately the same thickness as the tang of the blade: it could not be made any thicker.

3)The ED dismantles just like a Sebenza, why would maintanence be any different?

The EDC is a great compromise knife. It is big enough to cut well and small enough to carry in any situation whether casual or formal.

It is not a Sebenza. It is not $300+

I would love a 3.6" or so EDC. Hope to see it one day.
 
You EDC guys are worse than Sebenzanistas. I don't dislike the EDC, I think it's a great knife. It's probably a great knife at even twice the price. It however, isn't equal to a $ 275 Sebenza. Is the Sebenza worth $ 275. Probably not. I've often heard it described as a perfect $ 200 knife. The extra $ 75 is probably due to the Chris Reeve name and the myths surrounding it.

However, the design of the Sebenza frame lock is inherently stronger than the lock on the EDC. The EDC lock is rather thin and slender and has a much higher potential for buckling and bending than the Sebenza design. How much weaker? I also beg to differ on the all things being equal SS is stronger than Ti. Ti is tougher than many exoctic steels and has only been held back from use for knives because of the expense of the raw material and the higher costs of machining. We could do some calculations but the real test is breaking a few of them to distruction and I'm not about to destroy my EDC or my Sebenza.

As to taking them apart for maintenance. I must admit I haven't looked at my EDC warranty but I know Reeves encourages people to take Sebenzas apart for cleaning and it definitely doesn't void the warranty.

Is the EDC a better value than a Sebenza? Probably. Is it a better knife than a Sebenza? No.

What would be a perfect EDC? A Sebenza with the handle shape and sexy look of the Camillus EDC for less than $ 200.

Fortunately for all of us, with technology and the market drive from demanding customers, that perfect EDC is probably not far off.

Now I'll probably get flamed by the EDC guys and the Sebenzanistas. Next I guess I'll have to compare my Camillus CQB to my old Randall Model 1.

Thanks for the lively discussion. Who's going to give up their EDC or Sebenza for the destructive testing?
 
I'm sorry guys...I REALLY didn't want to start a flame-war, or a "my knife is better than your knife" thread.:(. I just wanted to share my complete happiness with my recent acquisition of this fine Camillus EDC folder.:).

Both the Camillus EDC AND the CR Sebenza are great knives, and as with everything-else in life, they will both have their good and bad points, as well as supporters and detractors.

Myself...I'm VERY happy with my new Camillus 154CM EDC folder, (although I still carry my REKAT Sifu and Carnivour Cub as my 2 "EDC" knives).:).

...However, I promise not to look down on my fellow "knife-knuts" who choose to carry a Sebenza.:D.
 
No offense taken from me. I'm both a Sebenza and a Camillus EDC fan. Both have their strong points. The Seb is built with an astounding amount of precision, while the EDC has more style and ergonomics that any knife I've ever handled.

Hmmm..... Combine the two and you have a...... Darrel Ralph custom!!! I'm saving my nickels for the New York show this fall. ;)

And those nickels are battling with my pennies, which are being saved for the upcoming Talonite EDC!!! :D
 
I liked it so much... I bought TWO!:rolleyes:

To me it is a no brainer, 2 of those plus other knives for the price of one small Sebenza:eek: . Don't get me wrong, the Sebi is a fantastic knife, but then so is the 154CM EDC!:p
 
GENERAL! What is the world comming too! I must take extreme offence at your post as it is one of the few I have read of yours that I TOTALLY agree with! :D

Did you guys see the sale on the EDC's! I believe I am going to pick up a 154-CM from Turber at thAT PRICE!
 
My two Sebenzas are just about the perfect EDCs with the very slight nod going to the small because of my customary manner of dress; otherwise, the large plain runs away as the winner-hands down.

With that said, I have two EDCs in 154CM; a plain and a combo edge. They are one thing the Sebenzas are not: insurance against loss. If one of the EDCs turns up missing ... it's not the end of the world. If one of the Sebenzas turns up missing it will not be the end of the world either, but I may miss a meal.

Both of these knives have their place and both of them definately have their place in my knife drawer!
 
Originally posted by Rob Simonich
GENERAL! What is the world comming too! I must take extreme offence at your post as it is one of the few I have read of yours that I TOTALLY agree with! :D

Did you guys see the sale on the EDC's! I believe I am going to pick up a 154-CM from Turber at thAT PRICE!
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Ordered 1 tonite, from M. Turber. I'm hoping it lives up to it's great Reviews!:D

Achilles
 
Originally posted by Rob Simonich
GENERAL! What is the world comming too! I must take extreme offence at your post as it is one of the few I have read of yours that I TOTALLY agree with! :D

Well I thought you would see things my way, eventually!;)
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I agree whole heartedly with you on the EDC. I got mine yesterday. I was about to buy a CR Sebenza this week, but believe it or not, I have now changed my mind. To me it felt better in my hand. Plus I am a lefty and Camillus actually cares about us southpaws enough to use dual thumbstuds. Don't get me wrong, I like the Sebenza, but after buying the EDC I can no longer convince myself to buy the CR.
 
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