CUDA MAXX in NYC?

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Ok, I was reading Tactical Knives and the article on the last page was about the author saving himself with a CUDA MAXX when his bag got caught on the subway train. (on the ends, there are these 2 gates that prevent people from falling in) He cuts the bag strap and a woman stared @ him for possesing a knife. That's not my point though. The CUDA MAXX is 5.5 inches, correct? If so, isn't it illegal here in NYC with a 4" limit?
 
I read that story, too. I own a Cuda Maxx but don't carry it in NYC (where I work). First, if he happened to be carrying it, whether legal or not, of course he's going to use it to save his life. From a journalistic standpoint, I don't think it's Tactical Knives responsibility to weigh in on whether it's legal for him to carry. For all they know, he could be a police officer, or some official exempt from the law, or NYC might have changed their laws last week. (They didn't to my knowledge). Tactical Knives just wants to print a good knife story. I was rooting for the guy, and was glad he pocketed his blade and got out of there. I'm sure your average cop would have wanted him to do just that.
 
Originally posted by GarageBoy
The CUDA MAXX is 5.5 inches, correct? If so, isn't it illegal here in NYC with a 4" limit?
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I don't know about you, but I'm shocked that somebody would break the law in New York City.

:D
 
Well, I shouldn't be talking about what's legel. I'm 14 and I have a Gerber LST. I should be a branded a criminal:rolleyes:
 
I found the article quite entertaining (especially the part about the woman who screamed after she saw him standing with the knife exposed.):D

Ah, the CUDA Maxx. Legal to own, perhaps not quite legal to carry in the streets of New York City. You have to admit, the guy was very fortunate to have the knife on him, legal to carry or not. He's just a knifenut who happened to be carrying a very large folder and it saved his @$$.

I do feel that one should be discreet with their daily carry knives and use common sense in selecting your choice of bladewear when living and working in a large metropolitan city, but you can't blame the guy for wanting to carry a knife he really likes. He was also lucky there wasn't an over-zealous NYPD officer nearby to see him holding such a large knife. Still, whether it's legal to carry or not, it sure saved his bacon. He just has to be careful not whip out the Maxx in the wrong place.

Cellphones are legal to own, yet talking on a cellphone while driving is now illegal in some places, yet how many people still do it on a routine basis? Which reminds me....Guns don't kill people, Drivers with cellphones do.
 
Its best not to mess with New Yorkers,as its illegal to leave the house unarmed:cool: :mad: :grumpy:
 
Its best not to mess with New Yorkers,as its illegal to leave the house unarmed:cool: :mad: :grumpy:
 
New York city law (different from New York state) consideres anything over with a blade length of 4" or over illegal. Further more (this is the weird part) all knives MUST be concealed. I'm not sure about fixed blades, but I would think you'd get some flak for them.

Of course the laws don't state how the blade is to be measured or what is considered concealed so it's a LEOs judgement on that one.

I've asked NYPD officers about knives and they basically have told me as long as I'm not doing something I shouldn't be, I'll be fine.
 
People actually follow the laws in NYC???:confused:

I drive on NY highways regularly, and the posted speed limit is 50mph, and if I go 80 there are still plenty of peeople speeding past me!

As far as the knife goes, I have actually not heard of many people being hastled by LEO's in NY for there knives. In fact I know someone who got caught with an auto. All the officer did was tell him it was an illegal knife, and gave it back. Ny actually isn't that bad of a place as far as knives go from my experience.
 
When I worked in midtown Manhattan, I routinely saw men with sheath knives working in the garment district. No one gets upset by what they see every day. I bet the woman who screamed to see the Maxx would have screamed to see an EDC, too. I wish there were a way we could teach people not to be so afraid of themselves.
 
If you look up the New York City knife law it goes like this:

If it is 4" or less, is concealed and kept for a utilitarian purpose - it is legal.

If your job requires you to use a larger fixed blade - it is legal. (no permit necessary) It is illegal to wear or carry such a knife when not at work.

Fixed blades are described as any knife that locks open - (non-locking slip joints are not fixed blades, neither are retractable razors.)

Any knife that is automatic, gravity driven (parachute knife), double edged, or configured to be a dirk is illegal.

Dirk is described as any sharpened weapon that is designed for stabbing.
(Delta darts, CIA letter openers, etc)

Finally, any legal knife that is used as a weapon - is illegal.
 
For a self-defense situation, the prosecution has to presume premeditation because of the fact that you are armed.

The defense will have to prove that the "tool" in your possesion is because of some other "legal" reason or that it is fortuitus. In NYC, if the "tool" is not properly hidden from sight, it can be grounds that it was brandished for reasons of intimidation or coersion.

Just be aware, that at the very least, you can go down for manslaughter. It happened to my friend's brother. He defended himself in a self-defense situation with a folding knife and just finished his manslaughter 2 sentence of 15 years reduced to 7 years.

Its all fun and games, debate and conjecture, rationalizations and reasonings until you are in the 6x8 concrete cell.

In NYC, law level is high. No weapons should be drawn unless you think you are going 6 feet under - for legal reasons of course. Just keep in mind, that you may still go to prison.
 
The retractable razor and flat head screwdriver is the carry weapon of choice on the street. I know a police inspector in the city, he tells me that they pull about 30-40 guns off the streets every month in his area.

They pull out 10 milkcrates of razors, screwdrivers, hammers, and other cheap tools.
 
On the TK story, I thought the very same thing whe I read it. Very illegal knife to carry in NYC, but that fella's lucky he had it.

Sundvall, that sucks about your friend's brother, but were there any other circumstances that you are leaving out? Like...was this a fight that went from bad to worse (mutual agreed combat)? Was this guy a punk in his own right, hanging out in a bad place, up to no good? Gang fight? Prior arrest record?

I'm not making accusations, I just find it hard to swallow that your friend was a model citizen just minding his own business, was mugged or attacked from the blue, and got sent up for MS2. If that is in fact the case, that scares me to death.
 
Well, I am not going to post the detail about the person in question to preserve the individual's anonymity.

I will say this, the BG pulled a weapon and approached the victim. The victim pulled and opened a pointy folding knife. It pierced the BGs chest straight to the heart.

BG was dead as he hit the floor.

So, death does come swiftly with a well placed stab wound.

Manslaughter 2 was a plea bargain. He got out in 7 years instead of doing the 15-25 years that manslaughter 2 usually comes with.

My friends bro was not wealthy and didn't want to go to trial with the court apppointed defense attorney for fear of doing life w/o parol or death.

Prison is pretty horrific place. Would be wise stay away from it.
 
sundsvall:

what kind of weapon was the bg carrying?

and how did the altercation start?
 
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