Culinary knives and knifeknuts

I'm guilty as well. But in partial defense, only I use my pocket knives, and everyone uses our kitchen knives. I wouldn't like to see good knives dropped in the sink, slammed on cutting boards, etc. What I am thinking of doing is getting a second holding block, the kind that fit laying down in a drawer. When I good good kitchen cutlery, put them there in hiding and not tell our guests about them.

I hadn't thought about upgrading until watching Murry Carter's video, and then the latest Korin video on sharpening. Them Japanese knives sure look nice!

After I let my wallet re-charge... :D
 
Sodak,

Did your wallett recharge yet?

Since starting this thread, we got a veggie-slicer/chopper knife and paring knife from Tojiro, a serrated utility from Mundial, and have a Takeda gyuto on order. Now if I only knew how to actually cook... :o
 
I have become obsessed with culinary cutlery. I have almost the complete line of Shun Classic as well as Shun Elite. I just received a Forschner Fibrox chef's, and am currently looking into vintage CS Sabatiers.

I am looking for any info out there on vintage Sabatiers/ There are so many brands and I have never really owned a CS knife. They are tougher to maintain, but I can see myslef enjoying the sharpenability, if that is a word.

If I love the Sabatiers, I might upshift to a Kramer. But really, I love my Shun Elites. Incredible knives and absolutely resistant to corrosion. Custom hand-made knives are great, but I think that Kai/Kershaw will be tough to top.
 
Two reasons I don't really care about kitchen knives.

1. The cutting tasks I do my EDC's handle just fine. Mostly just slicing up carrots and onions, cutting up fruits and meats, opening food packages etc.

2. Even if I had nice kitchen knives and maintained their edge, they'd get treated rather poorly by the other people living here. The knives we have are used then just layed on the side of the sink or in the sink in dirty dish washer, constantly banged on other metal, never sharpened by anyone but me etc. I barely even bother to maintain their edges since I never use them.
 
Just spoke to one of the other forum folks and he busted my cookies because I have a ton of high-end/high-performance sporting knives (folders, bowies, other fixed blades), but only 4 good kitchen knives and the best of those was a gift he sent me.

How many other folks here have the latest, greatest knives from Busse, Kershaw, Spyderco, and (insert other favorite here; such as Ranger Knives, Swamp Rat Knifeworks, and custom makers or whomever floats your boat), but have a kitchen knife setup that fails to impress your food?

I can't be the only one, but are there only two more or three thousand more?


Yeah, I am ashamed to admit it, but I fall into that category as well.:o
 
Bieng an ex-cook and kitchen manager I fall into the opposite. >< I wish my folder collection more resembled my kitchen knife spread.

I'll second this one. I've spent years stocking my knife block, but only recently started collecting fixed/folders. I have both henckles and wustof, and they're both pretty much the same -- great. The smaller wustofs are ground thinner, so they SEEM a little sharper(maybe the primary bevel is different, I don't know).

For years I swore by my 9 1/2 in. chefs, and 6 in. utility(both german), but ever since I purchased an 8 in. Global (french style)chef's knife, I've had to change my thinking. Those Shun Ken Onions are looking pretty sweet now. Or maybe some of those hand made japanese knives -- anyone have any input on those?
 
I have a decent collection of knives for the kitchen but it still doesn't outweigh my folders.
A Cutco Homemaker set plus 8, an assortment of Chef and boning knives from Victorinox, a handful of Boker ceramics,
and a few odd Mundial commercial knives which I really don't use.
I find myself using my 10" Vic or Cutco chef knife or one of the Boker 6" almost all of the time though.

mike
 
I keep a few good kitchen knives. I have a Tojiro powdered steel parer and powdered steel santoku. I have a Murray Carter general purpose knife in blue steel. I also have a Hattori parer in VG10 damascus. The Tojiro powdered steel knives are great because they are thin and hold an edge well.

This site sells many high caliber knives. They are running a Xmas special and I'm thinking of giving this 190mm Santoku a try. VG10 "Damascus", western style (third photo from the top)
http://www.japanesechefsknife.com/SPECIALS.html

Anyone have any experience with these knives....or this seller for that matter. They stock a lot of handmade, high end knives, by master smiths in Japan. This knife is apparently their "house" brand, and I'm presuming (hoping) that one of their top notch Japanese smiths has made them a deal, hence, the good price for the description. For 88 bucks I think it's worth a try. Opinions????
 
This site sells many high caliber knives. They are running a Xmas special and I'm thinking of giving this 190mm Santoku a try. VG10 "Damascus", western style (third photo from the top)
http://www.japanesechefsknife.com/SPECIALS.html

Anyone have any experience with these knives....or this seller for that matter. They stock a lot of handmade, high end knives, by master smiths in Japan. This knife is apparently their "house" brand, and I'm presuming (hoping) that one of their top notch Japanese smiths has made them a deal, hence, the good price for the description. For 88 bucks I think it's worth a try. Opinions????

One of the best Japanese kitchen knife sites.
I don't own that one but Koki's customer service, shipping speed (often, three days to the states!), prices, and selection make him the go to dealer for most of your needs. :)
 
One of the best Japanese kitchen knife sites.
I don't own that one but Koki's customer service, shipping speed (often, three days to the states!), prices, and selection make him the go to dealer for most of your needs. :)


Thanks for the info, ADD. Takes a little of the apprehension out of ordering from someone with whom you've never had any previous dealings.
 
The turkey always gives a sigh of relief when it finds that it's going to be carved by a very experiences carver with a very fine Shun knife !!
Woot! I just got my grandma a slicer and a paring knife from Shun, and we're going to break them in on the turkey Thursday!
 
Thom,
As a fellow kitchen knifenut (and a person who has bought knives from you), I love the nature of this thread.

Contrary to the majority in this forum, I have owned way more high end kitchen knives. As a individual who lives in the city - I just don't have any demanding activity for my EDC knives. The kitchen knives however can be used everyday and it ends up with a tasty treat.
 
Forschners for everyday cooking -- work great, easy to clean and maintain, cheap. I have one top of the line Henckels from way back when, but I wouldn't get another one.
 
My collection of kitchen knives is quite eclectic.

My chef's knife is a Frosts UniGrip 10". It's the usual high-quality Mora 12c27 steel hardened to 58HRC. The handle is amazingly grippy, even when wet, oily, or soapy. I call it "Hrunting."

I also have a 6" Tosogata Hocho santoku. At $30, for my money, it's one of the best handmade deals around (no offense, custom knifemakers). Blue steel clad in wrought iron laminations, hardened to 63HRC, it cuts like a laser.

I always keep my 8" Joyce Chen Chinese chef's knife nearby. Not a spectacular knife, but I like the blade shape and it was cheap plus I had a coupon.

My little Wüsthof 5" chef's knife that came with a bamboo cutting board (a nice kitchen tool in its own right).

I've got three paring knives. A Victorinox black handled parer and a couple Opinel carbon steel knives.

My Old Hickory carver might get a workout this Thursday if I can convince my dad of its sharpitude.

Including my half dozen cheap 420-ish supermarket kitchen knives I use for sharpening practice, I think I have as many, if not more, kitchen knives than I do non-kitchen knives.
 
"Good" is as "good" does. Over half of my kitchen knives were my mothers kitchen knives, and half of hers were her mothers kitchen knives. Beyond that, I do not know. There is at least one in the drawer that dates to around 1900, and they all get sharpened around once a year or so, just before deer season is over.
 
Anyone have any experience with these knives....or this seller for that matter

www.japanesechefsknife.com is one of the coolest places on the net. They're like the exclusively cooking knife answer to NewGraham (well, they have a non-cooking knife site, too, but I only drool over the cooking knives and have given lots of my business to Koki. Think he'd be upset if we called him "The Koki Monster?")

Woot! I just got my grandma a slicer and a paring knife from Shun, and we're going to break them in on the turkey Thursday!

Wait until you use that paring knife, Lucky Bob! 95% of your pocketknives will seem like prybars after the first cut. Reminds me, might have to bring the a Shun chefs knife to my in-laws' so I can help out without wishing it was there...

Thom,
As a fellow kitchen knifenut (and a person who has bought knives from you), I love the nature of this thread.

Contrary to the majority in this forum, I have owned way more high end kitchen knives. As a individual who lives in the city - I just don't have any demanding activity for my EDC knives. The kitchen knives however can be used everyday and it ends up with a tasty treat.

Thanks for the kind words, Nick. As you now possess a Calypso 3, you may find there are all sorts of things which need cutting that you just didn't realize before.

Forschners for everyday cooking -- work great, easy to clean and maintain, cheap. I have one top of the line Henckels from way back when, but I wouldn't get another one.

Do you have the rosewood ones or the Fibrox ones? I have a Fibrox Chefs knife (for Fibrox chefs!) and it has a good balance of strength and agility for making detailed cuts and standing up to a pounding. Their paring knives are an unsung bargain, too.

My collection of kitchen knives is quite eclectic.

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My Old Hickory carver might get a workout this Thursday if I can convince my dad of its sharpitude.

Including my half dozen cheap 420-ish supermarket kitchen knives I use for sharpening practice, I think I have as many, if not more, kitchen knives than I do non-kitchen knives.

Cooking and hiking are the places where you can use large knives for as long as you want without drawing too many untowards looks (unless you garnish with a chef knife like do....).

That certainly is an eclectic and enjoyable list of knives there, DrThunder88.

For convincing your father your carving knife is sharp, you could try some foodie demonstrations. The most popular is dropping an heirloom tomato on the knife's edge and having it slice clean through with just its falling weight. Well, that takes a very sharp knife, but can also be done with a fragile edge, so it might not be completely convincing to someone who isn't a knife-obsessed foodie. So what you do is hold your carving knife edge up and hold the turkey above it and... Wait. Never mind. That'll only get you institutionalized while your Old Hickory carver sits unused. I'm sure you have other ways, though, and I wish you luck.

"Good" is as "good" does.

That's very true. According to one of the chefs Fleetparadox and I know, a lot of internationally ranked chefs use knives we consider dead-dull and they make internationally ranked food. My wifey can take a generic steak knife and whip up delicious food faster and better tasting than I can do with my sharpest and best-suited knives. Still, we're in it for the knives and that cool sensation when they gently pass through solid food with barely any feeling or make thinner-than-paper slices.

Thanks everyone! Happy Thanksgiving tomorrow!
 
I bought a full set of high qualilty kitchen knives several years ago. I have everything from an 8" chefs to a specialized cheese knife. All are forged, not stamped, and very well balanced.

I added some weight to my Ritter Griptillian handle a while back. This knife was very blade heavy before I modified it. When I mentioned the the knife was now balanced in my hand, [as well as much more solid feeling and sounding], I was roundly Poo-pooed by 'knifeknuts' who couldn't see why anyone would do such a thing. They obviously have never used a high quality kitchen knife before and they don't really know how to use a knife overall. The benefits of solid balanced blades in kitchen knives is directly translateable to EDC/field usage, whether a fixed or a folder. If you have a 'chopper', i.e. Busse style knife, that's another story. For slicing, which is what 90% of us do withour knives, weight and balance is the key, [along with a sharp edge and good profile of course].

If all you do is eat out, or, if someone else cooks for you, this means nothing.
But, if you do actually prep food in your kitchen, at least get a good quality chefs and paring knife. Don't get a 12" chefs! They are too darn big. You'll find them on sale because knowledgeable cooks don't like 'em! 8 inchers work best for all around use. Then look online and learn how to hold and use the thing. You will be amazed. It will improve your EDC knowledge and skill as well.
 
I use Misono for cooking, and Victorinox for Butchering. Both dirt cheap and really sharp. Basically I'd never use a knife I'd be afraid to drop on the floor. My F.Dick honing steel was a little pricy but they last forever.
 
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