Current-Manufacture Non-Flipper Assisteds. Help make a list!

Hackenslash said:
Insisting on an AO knife limits your choices significantly. AOs typically are found on cheaper knives where the spring action can hide poor tolerances. The exceptions would be Benchmade and domestic KAI offerings. Have you looked at the old Onion ZT's; 0303, 0350 or 0200?
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I'm irritatedly-well-aware of that limitation, and that's precisely why I posted this! I was kinda hoping there were some other AO fans who were deeper into the Biz than my dumb self, and might spew forth their picks, wishes, off-the-radar choices and whatever else here!

Hackenslash said:
Why do you need AO? If you could succinctly share that, we might be able to suggest manual knives with acceptable action.
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Oh, I don't for any reason need it, I just really like it! I live close enough to the suburbs of Denver that my time is split between (newly, and ᴛʜᴀɴᴋs!) autos-OK and autos-banned jurisdictions, and while I freely admit I have no disability or other pressing need for a spring to replace a slightly-harder-flick, but lockup's always so positive and even if I (can) pinch exposed blade and ignition-start the process it's right there for me, and, well, stupid but it's so delightfully mechanical, if that makes any sense; an unseen, nearly uncredited assist that at the very least results in a reliable crispness, an irredoubtable soundness, and a satisfying sound, as well.
 
Ike said:
I'm irritatedly-well-aware of that limitation, and that's precisely why I posted this! I was kinda hoping there were some other AO fans who were deeper into the Biz than my dumb self, and might spew forth their picks, wishes, off-the-radar choices and whatever else here!



Oh, I don't for any reason need it, I just really like it! I live close enough to the suburbs of Denver that my time is split between (newly, and ᴛʜᴀɴᴋs!) autos-OK and autos-banned jurisdictions, and while I freely admit I have no disability or other pressing need for a spring to replace a slightly-harder-flick, but lockup's always so positive and even if I (can) pinch exposed blade and ignition-start the process it's right there for me, and, well, stupid but it's so delightfully mechanical, if that makes any sense; an unseen, nearly uncredited assist that at the very least results in a reliable crispness, an irredoubtable soundness, and a satisfying sound, as well.
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Check out plunge locks on Hogue, Spartan, Protech and maybe even the Gerber 06. I'm a big fan of button/plunge locks and most have really good action like an AO.
 
Did you say you don't want Kershaw recommendations? Leek, Blur?
Ontario Utilitac 1-A Assisted
Ontario Rat I 1-A Assisted
Buck Quickfire
CRKT 2900 Heiho folder
Benchmade 470-1 Emissary
Benchmade Barrage
Cold Steel 22A Swift I
 
Pilsner said:
you can get a Benchmade 581 for around two hundred bucks:
1) Designed by Warren Osborne.
2) M390 steel.
3) Axis lock.
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I've mentioned earlier in a reply that I'm trying not only to corral an AO mechanism but to do so with the edge-holdin'est & hardest mutation of tool-steel I can manage, to imagine something like an S60/S90\CTS20/S110 or any number of other very hard steels with enough of a 'give' to take a super-keen edge and then hold the damn thing (non-edge-general corrosion, brittleness very low concern) as long as possible. Don't get me wrong; M390 is absolutely a contender, especially given the care I know BM to give their factory edge grinds, but if I'm going to lay down $200-250 I really expect something easier on the eyes than the vanilla 581! Yeah, fine, I'm just nitpicking in a category without too much wiggle-room, that's fair, but, man, that's an ugly li'l knife. As to Point #3, the fact that it's AO negates the fiddly nature of the Axis (talk about fads you didn't think would take off!) and of course it'll run smooth as silk either way.

Pilsner said:
Oh, and maybe relax a bit?
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As the situation merits. Please believe I'm not some troglodyte looking for an ol'-fashoined flamewar. That said, I'm not about to take shit for just being long-winded or bend over when some twentysomething forum cowboy takes up enough space of his own just to add that he don't care!
 
Ike said:
I've mentioned earlier in a reply that I'm trying not only to corral an AO mechanism but to do so with the edge-holdin'est & hardest mutation of tool-steel I can manage, to imagine something like an S60/S90\CTS20/S110 or any number of other very hard steels with enough of a 'give' to take a super-keen edge and then hold the damn thing (non-edge-general corrosion, brittleness very low concern) as long as possible. Don't get me wrong; M390 is absolutely a contender, especially given the care I know BM to give their factory edge grinds, but if I'm going to lay down $200-250 I really expect something easier on the eyes than the vanilla 581! Yeah, fine, I'm just nitpicking in a category without too much wiggle-room, that's fair, but, man, that's an ugly li'l knife. As to Point #3, the fact that it's AO negates the fiddly nature of the Axis (talk about fads you didn't think would take off!) and of course it'll run smooth as silk either way.


As the situation merits. Please believe I'm not some troglodyte looking for an ol'-fashoined flamewar. That said, I'm not about to take shit for just being long-winded or bend over when some twentysomething forum cowboy takes up enough space of his own just to add that he don't care!
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On the subject of the Axis lock, besides Demko’s Triad lock it is pretty much the strongest lock for a folder. That has always been the lure for me, rather than the admitted pleasure of use. I’ve got a now discontinued BM Nitrous Stryker AO, and it’s a liner lock. Nice knife, but I’d pick the 581 every single time.

The AO negates the easy closure of non-assisted Axis knives, but the strength of the lock is the key.

On the other hand, if you don’t like the looks of it, then that is clearly a deal breaker. I recommend you try one out if you ever get the chance; bar the aesthetics, you will understand why I recommended it. I wish you good luck with your search.
 
Ike said:
I've mentioned earlier in a reply that I'm trying not only to corral an AO mechanism but to do so with the edge-holdin'est & hardest mutation of tool-steel I can manage, to imagine something like an S60/S90\CTS20/S110 or any number of other very hard steels with enough of a 'give' to take a super-keen edge and then hold the damn thing (non-edge-general corrosion, brittleness very low concern) as long as possible. Don't get me wrong; M390 is absolutely a contender, especially given the care I know BM to give their factory edge grinds, but if I'm going to lay down $200-250 I really expect something easier on the eyes than the vanilla 581! Yeah, fine, I'm just nitpicking in a category without too much wiggle-room, that's fair, but, man, that's an ugly li'l knife. As to Point #3, the fact that it's AO negates the fiddly nature of the Axis (talk about fads you didn't think would take off!) and of course it'll run smooth as silk either way.


As the situation merits. Please believe I'm not some troglodyte looking for an ol'-fashoined flamewar. That said, I'm not about to take shit for just being long-winded or bend over when some twentysomething forum cowboy takes up enough space of his own just to add that he don't care!
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Benchmade 477-1. I mean, if you want a non-vanilla AO USA made blade... this has to take the cake. Not the best ergos in the world, but not uncomfortable by any means and I think it's one of the best looking knives that Benchmade makes.
 
panoz77 said:
Did you say you don't want Kershaw recommendations? Leek, Blur?
Ontario Utilitac 1-A Assisted
Ontario Rat I 1-A Assisted
Buck Quickfire
CRKT 2900 Heiho folder
Benchmade 470-1 Emissary
Benchmade Barrage
Cold Steel 22A Swift I
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Yeah, I've had enough Kershaws to be sick of them. Hard to beat for their price-point, but I'm disappointed in a Blur in 14C28N, hardly makes sense to pay about 1.5× as much for just another Blur in S30V, eh? The Ontario RATs come well-recommended, they're on my shortlist to find a retailer and at least play with, and I hadn't yet seen the Utilitacs; though in both cases AUS-8 doesn't thrill me. Price is sure right though. CRKT is out for steels. Haven't looked at CS yet. In any case, thank you so very much, not only for taking my query seriously, but also giving me info I didn't already have. I really appreciate you!
 
Forget assisted entirely and get an unassisted AXIS lock Benchmade. With force you can wrist-flick any of them, with some force you can thumbsutd flick any of them, wiith little force you can open them if you pull back slightly on the AXIS lock and genitally wrist flick them.

The real advantage is that you can wrist flick them closed too. Fast to open, fast to close, no digits ever in the path of the blade.
 
Planterz said:
Forget assisted entirely and get an unassisted AXIS lock Benchmade. With force you can wrist-flick any of them, with some force you can thumbsutd flick any of them, wiith little force you can open them if you pull back slightly on the AXIS lock and genitally wrist flick them.

The real advantage is that you can wrist flick them closed too. Fast to open, fast to close, no digits ever in the path of the blade.
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Genitally wrist flick? I usually use my hands.
 
I got a great price on an S30V Blur. Look around, you might find a deal too.
When I carry and use the Blur I sometimes get depressed that this relatively cheap knife could replace 90% of my collection.
It cuts well, fits my hand wonderfully, is sturdy and it carries well.
The only caveats are the sharp thumbstuds and the pocket clip needs more clearance. I fixed both of those issues.
The Blur is the only Kershaw I own.
 
I have a few issues with you and your posts ... first in general you're attitude ... you're the one asking fir help but acting like a child having a tantrum ...

and you've changed your wants/needs from post to post ... and bashed a poster trying to reply ... then narrowed your options ... which you should have in your first post ...

lastly if you and to quote you "the reliability of the AO" ... if you think AOs are reliable you really need to reasearch alot ... yes many never have issue and many never get much use but most will tell along with AOs comes spring breakage from time to time ... autos and AOs are the last I'd put on the "Reliable List" ...

if it's just whatt YOU want then simply say so but don't cuss and bite at members who try to help you and you'd get much better results ...

good luck in your search JJ
 
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