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Custom knives and sayas

Discussion in 'Kitchen Cutlery & Tools' started by valknut, Aug 27, 2018.

  1. valknut

    valknut Schmidt Forge Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 18, 2016
    So for the makers out there. Do you make a saya for every kitchen knife you make? I would like to start making more chef knives but wasn't sure if a saya had to be included. Thank you!
     
  2. Rhinoknives1

    Rhinoknives1 KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Jul 1, 2013
    Valknut, it’s not a requirement, many quality Japanese made Culinary Chef Knives do not come with a Saya.. It’s a nice touch and I’ve made a few but the vast majority of buyers are focused on the Quality of the knife. —————————I do provide one of the plastic blade savers to protect the edge and so Chef’s can put the knives in the knife roll bag without the edge cutting up the roll or so the edge isn’t damaged in a drawer in their kitchen of home cooks.
     
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  3. valknut

    valknut Schmidt Forge Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 18, 2016
    Ok thanks for the reply man. I'll have to Google the plastic blade saves your talking about. Haven't seen one of those before
     
  4. Rhinoknives1

    Rhinoknives1 KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Jul 1, 2013
    Blade Savers. Are made by My friend here in Santa Monica Ca, look up Blade Savers, they are other companies that make them too
     
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  5. valknut

    valknut Schmidt Forge Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 18, 2016
    Cool I'll check them out and tell him you sent me
     
  6. Rhinoknives1

    Rhinoknives1 KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Jul 1, 2013
    You won’t be dealing with him unless you call, “The Ultimate Edge” Richard is his name.
     
  7. valknut

    valknut Schmidt Forge Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 18, 2016
    Oh ok I found them. I'm only seeing them in sets though
     
  8. Rhinoknives1

    Rhinoknives1 KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Jul 1, 2013
    If you want to buy in volume, like 20 or so 8”-10” savers, you can call Richard.310-398-5401. If you just want a couple you’ll have to get them from Amazon or other places..
     
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  9. valknut

    valknut Schmidt Forge Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 18, 2016
    Ok I got ya. Thanks for the advice man!
     
  10. valknut

    valknut Schmidt Forge Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 18, 2016
    Ok so another question. When doing a Japanese style handle do you cut guard shoulders into the tang like a regular hidden tang? Or just leave a skinny tang and slide the handle over that
     
  11. timos-

    timos- KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Oct 22, 2012
    Its up to you. I like to use shoulders, the Japanese call it the "Machi" I believe. The shoulders provide a place where the handle stops when you slide it into place. Ive been buying blade gaurds from CKTG and zippered pouches from Pops or Tru Grit to send my chef knives out in. Customers have been very appreciative of this. Its just about a 10$ investment for each knife so not a big deal. You can make your own saya too but I personally only offer it as a separate add on thing.
     
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  12. valknut

    valknut Schmidt Forge Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 18, 2016
    Ok I'll do just that, thanks for the reply tim. Do you forge your chef knives?
     
  13. timos-

    timos- KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Oct 22, 2012
    no forging, ive only done some cold hammering on some clad steel to get a bit of a pattern. I did finally score a nice anvil and plan to get an atlas mini , maybe next year. My biggest problem is I broke my right hand a couple summers ago and my hand starts killing me real quick.
     
  14. valknut

    valknut Schmidt Forge Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 18, 2016
    Hell that's the hardest part is getting a good anvil lol. Forge is easy to build. Yeah that's rough man.
     
  15. timos-

    timos- KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Oct 22, 2012
    Yeah, I am excited to get the forge. I am just going to do some real basic stuff at first. My goal is to eventually offer simple kitchen blades that were 90% forged to shape and finished on stones. It would be nice to eventually make some killer blades without the use of electricity at all. You might want to get involved in some pass arounds on a kitchen knife forum. You can try out different blades and get a feel for different styles and techniques, all while cooking dinner for the fam.
     
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  16. valknut

    valknut Schmidt Forge Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 18, 2016
    It's fun man I much prefer to pound steel than cut it to shape. That's pretty much what I plan no doing is forging it almost completely to shape. That's a great idea I might have to look into that. Any kitchen forums you recommend?
     
  17. timos-

    timos- KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Oct 22, 2012
    i like cktg the best
     
  18. milkbaby

    milkbaby

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    Aug 1, 2016
    Although many kitchen knife buyers and collectors don't care about a saya or sheath for their kitchen knives, I still make one for every kitchen knife that I make. People's eyes pop when they see both a sweet looking knife AND a sweet looking saya, it helps sell your work. Plus I like making them and take pride in making a nice knife with a nice saya.

    On the other hand, if you don't like making saya/sheaths, I say don't spend your time on it, life is too short. Collectors who MUST have a saya will find a separate saya maker if they like your kitchen knife enough to buy it. It won't be a deal breaker in the case of kitchen knives.
     

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