D2 and BG-42 run - a promise?

I believe this is what happened last time we discussed this. There was not enough concensus to move in a direction.

I think the Native would be the easiest for BG, maybe a Millie or Para. My guess is that D2 is readily available in Japan, so a Delica or Endura could work.

sal
 
Making runs like this sounds like extremely risky business.
I'd like to know (rhetorically) how many times Sal has responded to avid interest only to find that no one bought the special run.

I like the idea of a grey Native.
It has a neutral appearance; neither too friendly nor too threatening; perfect for an everthing EDC knife.
Grey goes with everthing, and it doesn't NOT go with anything.
I would like the knife to match the conformation of the current standard Native: slim, light, robust, practical, proven and perfectly ergonomic.
In a word, perfect.
No risk there.
In my mind, BG-42 combines the best qualities of all the most modern stainless knife steels: stain proof, bullet proof, and it takes and holds an aggressive edge (a combination of S30V, D2 and VG-10).
I consider my GIN-1 Native my most useful and prized knife.
I have carried and used it every day forever.
It works as well now as it did then.
I would consider a grey BG-42 Native irresistable and a knife I would pass on to one of my sons.
However, again, I would like it to exactly match the present day regular ol' Native, except for color and BG-42.
 
You always get alot of "I'll buy 5", then the special knife comes along, and doesn't sell. What about another forum knife?? Do they usual sell??
I guess I don't use my knives "hard" enough for the steel to matter that much to me. I'm still happy with my ATS-34 Vesuvius. I guess if I cut cardboard all day long, or chopped down small trees, then a wonder steel would help. :)
My G2 Endura has cut everything and then some that I have asked it to cut. So I can't really complain. I suppose a D2 fully serrated Endura would be nice, but I'm happy with my G2 Endura.
I think Mr. Glesser should just worry about the knives on the way(like the Szablofly :) ) We'll be okay with the steels we have.



Blades
 
Well, my GIN-1 Native has cut well for all these years.
It doesn't hold an edge particularly well, but it pops right back to super sharp with only a few passess of a steel.
I like that.
Dimensionally, it hasn't lost any steel, so how can I complain?

So why a Native in D2, BG-42 or VG-10; especially since we already have one in a fantastic steel like S30V?

I don't have any experience with D2, except by reputation.
Some very credible knife makers use it for knives in this size range; most notably Bob Dozier.

Neither do I have any direct experience with VG-10, but I understand it cuts very aggressively, with little pressure compared to other steels.
Fallkniven uses it exclusively.

I do have two custom BG-42 knives.
I've never used them to cut anything other than printer paper. :)
I hear people describe BG-42 as the ultimate smelted-steel (meaning, not a particle steel).
Some years ago I interviewed the head metalurgist for Timken-LaTrobe (the only manufacturers of BG-42) for a magazine article, and I came away very impressed.
A BG-42 Native would make an nice conter-part to an S30-V Native, if only for collectors; and I would like to have all three (GIN-1, S30-V, and BG-42).
Oh yes, didn't Spyderco make a 40-series CPM Native?

In all practicality, the GIN-1 Native serves me just fine.
I can see no rational reason for wanting a BG-42 Native in grey FRN, but I do. :)
 
Come on! u native lovers already got S30v, while we delica lovers still only have VG-10, and now you guys are trying to get a BG42, that's not fair!
BG42 SS delica hands down!
 
huh said:
Come on! u native lovers already got S30v, while we delica lovers still only have VG-10, and now you guys are trying to get a BG42, that's not fair!
BG42 SS delica hands down!
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[Billy Crystal] You get VG-10?! All we reverse-S Meerkat folks got was AUS-6 ... and we were thankful!
[/Billy Crystal]


I amend my vote:
I now wish for a Left-Handed Reverse-S Meerkat in VG-10 or better with a non-shiny wire clip.
 
Huh,
I think, what Sal said, is that one can do BG-42 blade for the knives produced in USA (like Native FRN, maybe Milie or Paramilie), and/or D-2 blades for 'japanese' knives (BOTH Delicas/Enduras).
I think it is important to realize that it is impossible to make all spectrum of Spydies in BG-42 or D-2.
Reading some very instructive discussions on the choice of a steel as a function of the blade length and/or purpose, I would say that D-2 may be a better choice for knives up to 5", and steels like S30V and BG-42 for slightly smaller ones.
My personal preference would be a BG-42 Wegner jr. , but since it is an illusion I would certainly buy a BG-42 Native, or D-2 Delica.
I think I shall probably start a new thread and propose one of these options to see what people think about. A basis would be the last two comments by Ken Cox.

Franco
 
How about this for an idea. I know there is a project to create a waved endura, how about a waved endura in d2?
 
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